He was 62, killed his grandmother in 1980 when he was 30, served 17 years.
He set the house on fire then posted up with a shotgun, a revolver, and a bushmaster. Supposedly. Hopefully the reporting of this is better than the nonsense that surrounded the school shooting. He left a long note (2 or 3 pages). They’re not releasing it, except for this part “I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down, and do what I like doing best, killing people.”
This story certainly makes a strong case for tougher felon control. I wonder what the “relapse” rate is for violent offenders?
The only folks I hear loudly repeating this are my fellow gun right advocates trying to yell over the liberals. The liberals that are demanding gun control aren’t saying ban all guns from what I’ve witnessed, not yet anyhow. I must admit, their mindset of trusting & relying upon a government is what concerns me most, because what starts out as “moderate” gun control can turn into…
Below is something I posted on a local gun forum when I was told showing empathy was “backwards”. I think all pro-gun folks should read and consider what I’m suggesting. We have members of our team shooting us all in the foot trying to yell louder when we should either remove ourselves or appeal to the other sides greed a bit to appease them. It is our collective society after all, if we remain divided we know who wins in the end. 8/
IMO you think I have it backwards because you seem to have entrenched yourself in the battle. If you try to yell over somebody what will they then do? YELL LOUDER! You will then feel the need to YELL EVEN LOUDER to plead your case. Look, the liberals don’t want to hear what we’ve been saying or they wouldn’t be YELLING OVER US. Want the decibel level to go down…STOP YELLING and remove yourself as fuel for their fire.
I know you don’t like what I have to say but I think you’re failing to look objectively at the psychology of an argument. The quickest & easiest way to end an argument is to APPEAL to the other persons greed. Tell them you hear their voice and you want to work with them. If you make them out to be the enemy and YELL at them, they will be your enemy and YELL at politicians & the media. In the end we all want the same thing, the senseless violence and slaughters to stop, right?
This man is a sick individual! They found his sisters remains in the house as well. It’s absolutely tragic that somebody as sick as this man had second chance at life.
The thing to remember here is that not every state has laws like NY. We have some very strict laws, and this shooter should not have been able to acquire those guns. Obviously he was capable of killing before with a common household item, and I’m sure he would have figured out some other way to kill if he didn’t have the guns.
You can make bombs out of every day house hold items and get the info on the interweb to create one. That could hvae cause more damage and death. We should be lucky he didnt do that.
My dad is a retired homicide investigator, there have been plenty of times he’d come home frustrated because criminals got plea deals, but sometimes that was better than risking a trial with not as much evidence as is needed for a conviction. Sometimes a plea to a lesser crime is better than risking someone walking free due to not enough evidence to convince a jury.
Better for 10 guilty men to go free than to convict 1 innocent man.
-John Adams
I agree with that.
What a weird case. Guy lives 30 years, then bashes his grandma’s skull in with a hammer, does 18 years in jail, gets out and lives without incident (?) for 14 years, then mommy died in October, and in December he burns the house down with the sister he hated trapped inside (?) and shoots anyone that tries to stop her from burning?
It’s hard to argue a gainst a zero-tolerance policy for murder. Though I’m not sure how you get manslaughter and not murder out of hitting your grandma in the head with a hammer.
Legalize drugs to empty out all the non-violent offenders from the jails and make room for life sentence for anyone convicted of murder. Ditching the black market and its associated gang violence will just be a bonus. Oh, but then people would get high. Can’t have that. Better stick with organized crime.
There is speculation that he was not happy about his mother making a donation to West Webster Fire Department, and her instructions that donations be made to them when she died.
I did notice that in her obit, from this past October from what I recall. Seems convenient he waited till the media frenzy to turn back into a stone cold killer. The more the media glamorizes this shit the more these fucktards will come out of the woodwork.
In most cases it has to do with premeditation and the killer’s state of mind at the time of the killing. As far as our legal system sees things, getting angry and grabbing a hammer then beating grandma’s head in is not as bad as getting angry and planning some elaborate scheme to shoot grandma. I’m sure there is a lot more to it, but I didn’t go to law school, I just play with computers all day. I’m definitely going to pick my dad’s brain some more tonight, Mom got kinda pissed that all this was overshadowing Christmas dinner, so “current events talk” was banned from their house for a day.
