ya and who is stuffing their pockets
consumer reports is a gov agency correct ??
our gov isn’t corupt at all.
my fault their a consumer union 
I have to disagree with your statement about how the import vehicle’s reputation is “self created”.
From 1998 until 2006, my job required me to drive my own vehicle & I usually put around 3-4k miles per month. I was very anal about routine maintenance & take pride in how my vehicles look & run. I do not like to drive a POS. Now I have a company car (2006 Dodge Grand Caravan - it needs constant service, because it is falling apart at 41k).
Let me just compare a few vehicles I have owned during that time…
1991 Pontiac Grand Am SE Coupe (2.3L, auto, 4 wheel disks, etc) - this car was a bucket of shit from the time I first bought it. Of course it had a few miles on it, but only around 80K. 2 water pumps, head gasket, motor mounts, 3 sets of front brakes, rear calipers, 4 new rotors twice, interior was falling apart/rattles.
1990 Beretta GTZ (2.3L, 5 spd, loaded) - this car was a bucket of shit from day one. Headgasket, water pump, motor mounts (liquid filled=expensive), clutch @ 60k, two sets of brakes, 2 sets of tires, exhaust twice (dynomax cat back fell apart in 2 years), starter, alternator, PS pump, rack, interior rattles/falling apart, etc. I bought it with 40k on it & traded it with 75k on it. I used it for three months at my current job before parking it because I nearly had to work on it alomst everyday to be able to goto work the next morning. This was one of the least reliable vehicles I have ever owned - next to my '83 Trans Am. At the time, I had an '84 regal with a 305 that I drove when I parked the Beretta. It was dead reliable & rarely ever gave me trouble. It was not stock & I had put alot of work into it over a 2-3 year time frame (originally a 3.8 V6 car that the cam went & the same time the trans went, so I put a 305/th350 from a '78 Omega in it). Paid $5k for the Beretta & got $800 on a trade for the Subaru below.
1998 Subaru 2.5RS Coupe (bought it with 9k on it) - this car had the shit beat out of it. I took it off road, did some high speed rallye-type driving on some back roads, generally drove it as hard as it could be driven. I sold it with almost 80k on it. It had one set of front pads installed & 2 sets of tires. I did a timing belt when I sold it, as it was due at 80k. This car never gave me one bit of trouble. No rattles & no falling apart. The 70k+ that I put on it was in 3 years. Sold it for $4k less than I paid for it.
1992 Honda Civic Si hatch (bought it with 96k on it for $2500 - kinda hammered, but I needed a cheap car at the time) this car needed some work when I got it, but no major mechanical work. It needed an exhaust (I got a used Si exhaust for free), steering column (turn signals did not work because of a shitty aftermarket steering wheel that was locked on the shaft - I found a stock column/wheel to replace it, again free), and a stereo. I drove it to 170k with little to no work. Routine maint - timing belt, brake pads, clutch @ 145k & a set of rear rotors. Also replaced all suspension bushings with polyurethane ones due to the original being worn out. I hammered this car pretty bad, too. I sold it when I was done with it for $3000.
1995 Acura Integra coupe (bought it with 182k on it) - put rear brakes (calipers, rotors, pads), timing belt/water pump, muffler. Sold it a year later with 198k on it for $500 more than I paid for it.
I always bought GM vehicles before the Subaru & nothing else. My truck had a broken crank @ 26k, my Typhoon had a bad trans @ 49k, other Beretta was a POS, too, Cavalier - junk, Chevy 4x4 - broke down alot, Jeep Wagoneer - rusted away to nothing, '83 Trans Am (biggest POS I have owned), 5 different Grand Prix’s (decent, but still issues), 2004 GTO - lots of problems, etc. As you can see, the import cars are much more reliable. Not just a “self created” reputation. I was a “buy american” type guy before buying the Subaru, and I felt the imports were junk. Now that I know better, I feel the opposite. I had a few more imports over the years. I usually get rid of them because I am bored & want something different, not because I’m afraid they won’t last.
I just bought my frist Chrysler product (Jeep Grand Cherokee) & so far I’m not impressed with it either. Transmission controller went out a week after I bought it. I’ll probably go back to an imort for a DD if the Jeep don’t work out.
not to bust your balls but…
Hyundai has one of the most advanced assembly lines in the world. With the highest quality rating (JD Power).
I can vouch for Tod about the shitty Berettas.
In 2.5 years of owning it I replaced:
Battery
Alternator
Tires
Brakes x3/Rear brakes x3
Rear hub assembly
Lower intake manifold gaskets
Heater Core
Water Pump
Plugs
Wires
Coil Pack x3
Ignition Module
Fuel Filter
Fuel Filler Neck (rotted out)
Gas Door (rotted out)
and it still leaked a little water when I sold it.
I sold it with 117k miles on it, which is NOT a lot…
cutty’s endless fight to preserve the reputation of integrity and quality for all domestic automobiles…ftL
i think cavis and grand ams and berattas are junk to start with. gm died twice… in 88 and in 96… i’m sure you can figure it out.
you can say what you want about this series car but they are proven they can withstand neglect… the cutlass ciera, celebrity, ponitac 6000 and buick century… those things are still all over the place becasue they are durable and cheap and easy to fix. the iron duke is tough to blow up.
you know how much those ratings are worth… not even the paper they are printed on…
but other than readin this, what is ur experience to say that as fact as it pertains to you… how many plants have you been to to compare it to? when you only have a handful of large car companies in the world sayin somthing is one of the top could mean 9th of 15 or it could in the top three. you need a basis to compare it against.
yep my mother owned a 1987 6000, brand new from the dealer,
She replaced countless 3 speed trannys and still couldn’t kill the 2.5L.
She retired it with no problems and 23x,xxx miles. It sat in our garage for a year.
Jumped the battery and drove it on the flatbed to be junked.
No rust, Just shitty paint. Beast in the snow and loved drinking oil.
Iron Dukes are the shit.
my 87 ciera was my first car and i pounded the fuck out of it…the only real weak spot was upper motor mount (dog bones).
The Iron Duke was a madman. And solid mount that shit!
That’s great & all, but they are a bucket of shit I wouldn’t be seen driving. I gotta like a car to own/drive it.