why dont you list these limits
if you’re talking about Technology, Ford has been using Overhead Cam engines since the 60’s
a positive of a bandwason car IMO is the fact that it has the ability to be a sleeper.
on teh DSM being bandwagon - if you go around and ask 10 random people what a 240sx is atleast 8 are going to have no clue but you ask people what an eclipse is and atleast 9 will know!
he just was tellin me about bottom end power limit that’s all…you own one i dont’ need to explain it to j00
and what was the bottom end limit? and whats the stock bottom end power limit to your 4g63?
yeah and ask them what a talon is and you’ll get “que?”
ohw many people that know what a car IS doens’t make it a bandwagon car, how many people know what a ford F150 is.,…probably all 10 of the :rolleyes:
90-early 91 motors were 550-600hp
91-92.5 motors were 450-500 (so far 480whp is the record on a daily driven stock 92 bottom end)
93-94.5 450
95-99 400
you didnt answer my question about the Cobras
you own one why should i answer it? i mean you could ask lou yourself…he has one too
if you’re comparing, you should know… ill give you a hint.
Without popping the valve covers, and pending its a safe tune. 700-800 is achievable
the Block/Crank is good for over 1,000 though
ya everyone knows what a talon is, its that car that looks like an eclipse but isnt one :bigok:
i dont believe there is such think as bandwagon really. i just think there are cars that have good platforms to build on and such. i dont care if everyone wants to DRIFT in their JDM sil-80 with a strawberry face!:rolleyes: i like my car and bought it for that reason. personally i still love grands am and my grand am in paticular.
that’s not what he said about the rods :kekegay:
i dind’t know we were talkinga bout crank and block just the weak spot…but if you wanna go that route crank supports 800 but block is…well right now glazer is still on the stock block…and hes at 1500crank :dunno:
the rods are pretty stout in the cobra… its the teflon coated pistons, which tend to expand under extreme heat, which are the weak point
yeah we pay less for insurance…but at least we dont’ have to spend money to import motors because our motor in the car we bought sux
at least the dsm keeps jackstand producing companies stock high 
i dunno what you’re talking about i dont’ have jackstands…i have a boat oar and an oak log
you all sound like a bunch of flapping labia…
you pussyfarts…
who gives a fuck which car is more “bandwagon”?!?
if being “bandwagon” is a negative, then due to the fact I own the only Prizm on the board, I am significantly pimper than all of you bitches…
see how ridiculous that sounds?
everyone is a comedian
i was being serious…
i have some jackstands you can use…
my car never requires being worked on…
ever.
cool, u take paypal?