you tried to smuggle how much money?

institutions can easily hold that much in bonds, even if one individual doesn’t. My guess is they work for some type of :snky: financial institution/investment fund.

^^ or they could have even been working for a nation. Either way, it was not their money and now Italy probably gets 40% of it because they didn’t declare it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a62_boqkurbI

Two Japanese men are detained in Italy after allegedly attempting to take $134 billion worth of U.S. bonds over the border into Switzerland. Details are maddeningly sketchy, so naturally the global rumor mill is kicking into high gear.

Are these would-be smugglers agents of Kim Jong Il stashing North Korea’s cash in a Swiss vault? Bagmen for Nigerian Internet scammers? Was the money meant for terrorists looking to buy nuclear warheads? Is Japan dumping its dollars secretly? Are the bonds real or counterfeit?

The implications of the securities being legitimate would be bigger than investors may realize. At a minimum, it would suggest that the U.S. risks losing control over its monetary supply on a massive scale.

The trillions of dollars of debt the U.S. will issue in the next couple of years needs buyers. Attracting them will require making sure that existing ones aren’t losing faith in the U.S.’s ability to control the dollar.

The dollar is, for better or worse, the core of our world economy and it’s best to keep it stable. News that’s more fitting for international spy novels than the financial pages won’t help that effort. It is incumbent upon the U.S. Treasury to get to the bottom of this tale and keep markets informed.

GDP Carriers

Think about it: These two guys were carrying the gross domestic product of New Zealand or enough for three Beijing Olympics. If economies were for sale, the men could buy Slovakia and Croatia and have plenty left over for Mongolia or Cambodia. Yes, they could have built vacation homes amidst Genghis Khan’s Gobi Desert or the famed Temples of Angkor. Bernard Madoff who?

These men carrying bonds concealed in the bottom of their luggage also would be the fourth-largest U.S. creditors. It makes you wonder if some of the time Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner spends keeping the Chinese and Japanese invested in dollars should be devoted to well-financed men crossing the Italian-Swiss border.

This tale has gotten little attention in markets, perhaps because of the absurdity of our times. The last year has been a decidedly disorienting one for capitalists who once knew up from down, red from black and risk from reward. It almost fits with the surreal nature of today that a couple of travelers have more U.S. debt than Brazil in a suitcase and, well, that’s life.

Clancy Bestseller

You can almost picture Tom Clancy sitting in his study thinking: “Damn! Why didn’t I think of this yarn and novelize it years ago?” He could have sprinkled in a Chinese angle, a pinch of Russian intrigue, a dose of Pyongyang and a bit of Taiwan-Strait tension into the mix. Presto, a sure bestseller.

Daniel Craig may be thinking this is a great story on which to base the next James Bond flick. Perhaps Don Johnson could buy the rights to this tale. In 2002, the “Miami Vice” star was stopped by German customs officers as he was traveling in a car carrying credit notes and other securities worth as much as $8 billion. Now he could claim it was all, uh, research.

When I first heard of the $134 billion story, I was tempted to glance at my calendar to make sure it didn’t read April 1.

Let’s assume for a moment that these U.S. bonds are real. That would make a mockery of Japanese Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano’s “absolutely unshakable” confidence in the credibility of the U.S. dollar. Yosano would have some explaining to do about Japan’s $686 billion of U.S. debt if more of these suitcase capers come to light.

‘Kennedy Bonds’

Counterfeit $100 bills are one thing; two guys with undeclared bonds including 249 certificates worth $500 million and 10 “Kennedy bonds” of $1 billion each is quite another.

The bust could be a boon for Italy. If the securities are found to be genuine, the smugglers could be fined 40 percent of the total value for attempting to take them out of the country. Not a bad payday for a government grappling with a widening budget deficit and rebuilding the town of L’Aquila, which was destroyed by an earthquake in April.

It would be terrible news for the White House. Other than the U.S., China or Japan, no other nation could theoretically move those amounts. In the absence of clear explanations coming from the Treasury, conspiracy theories are filling the void.

On his blog, the Market Ticker, Karl Denninger wonders if the Treasury “has been surreptitiously issuing bonds to, say, Japan, as a means of financing deficits that someone didn’t want reported over the last, oh, say 10 or 20 years.” Adds Denninger: “Let’s hope we get those answers, and this isn’t one of those ‘funny things’ that just disappears into the night.”

This is still a story with far more questions than answers. It’s odd, though, that it’s not garnering more media attention. Interest is likely to grow. The last thing Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke need right now is tens of billions more of U.S. bonds – or even high-quality fake ones – suddenly popping up around the globe.

Hmmm… Just a spin on Joes theory. It truly is interesting how this hasn’t seen a spec of broadcast news coverage in the US.

Although, these would have to be bearer bonds wouldn’t they? has the US honestly ever issued that much money in bearer bonds? Im still going with the fact they they are fake although you need to be one balsey mofo to counterfeit that much money.

crazy!

No, the US supposedly stopped producing them a long time ago because they were being used for illegal transactions. And who would spend that much money counterfeiting when there really isnt anything you can buy with $135B at one time. Maybe an arsenal of blackmarket ex-soviet nukes? lol

i’m actually not surprise that the US hasnt publicized it… makes you wonder why people don’t bother with newspapers and TV news anymore eh? or maybe it’s the reason.

anyhow, i hope this is true and i hope it comes out a bit louder.

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Treasury says they are counterfeit and says there isn’t anywhere close to that much money in bearer bonds issued.

Well North Korea has always had a beef with Japan haven’t they? Maybe they were trying to acquire a little “musscle”

Scary right…

do you work at the treasury or do you have a link on that one? :smiley:

Lol…

I have a feeling that the “richest people in the word” are more the 'richest western civilization tax paying" people in the world. :wink:

x…

I actually run the entire treasury from my computer at home. In fact, Timothy Geithner is digitally animated and I do the voice over. Just don’t tell anyone.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=adc1HD7mWY4A

lolz… thanks, case closed.