I don't even know what to title this thread thread.

Can we just have a general rant thread or “the political week in review” thread or something like that? I don’t think you want me to make a new thread for my 365 rants per year. lol

This week (so far)…

Barney Frank still has a job. WTF?
Harry Reid still has a job. WTF?
Fed - another $600 billion. WTF?
GM - $45 billion tax break. WTF?
Obama to India - Costs up to $200 million PER DAY. WTF?
Obama takes 3000 people to india and risks all of their lives. Is this really smart or neccessary? WTF?

Wait, what?

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Ah. Just another symptom of what a fucked up couple of years it has been in this country.

The tax benefit stems from so-called tax-loss carry-forwards and other provisions, which allow companies to use losses in prior years and costs related to pensions and other expenses to shield profits from U.S. taxes for up to 20 years. In GM’s case, the losses stem from years prior to when GM entered bankruptcy.

Usually, companies that undergo a significant change in ownership risk having major restrictions put on their tax benefits. The U.S. bailout of GM, in which the Treasury took a 61% stake in the company, ordinarily would have resulted in GM having such limits put on its tax benefits, according to tax experts.

But the government, in a little-noticed ruling last year, decided companies that received bailout money under the Troubled Asset Relief Program won’t fall under that rule.

“The Internal Revenue Service has decided that the government’s involvement with these companies, both its acquisitions plus its disposals of their stock, means they should be exempt” from the rule, said Robert Willens, a New York tax consultant who advises investment banks and hedge funds.

The government’s rationale, said people familiar with the situation, is that the profit-shielding tax credit makes the bailed-out companies more attractive to investors, and that the value of the benefit is greater than the lost tax payments, especially since the tax payments would not exist if the companies fail.

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lol at least the rest of it is nonsense.

Seems like the Republicans are back to using fuzzy math.

President Barack Obama is being slammed by conservatives’ unsubstantiated claims—which the White House insists are bogus—that the president’s 10-day Asia trip, which Obama kicks off Friday, will cost hundreds of millions of dollars a day.

Then there are the rumors that he’ll be guarded by a vast armada of 34 U.S. warships. And that he’ll rent 870 rooms in one hotel. And that he’ll take thousands of people along with him.

Many of the claims originated from unnamed Indian officials in the Indian press. They were then perpetuated by conservatives

U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann griped to Anderson Cooper on CNN this week that the trip “is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day,” she said. “He’s taking two thousand people with him. He’ll be renting out over 870 rooms in India. And these are 5-star hotel rooms at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel. This is the kind of over-the-top spending.”

But as the Taj Mahal Palace’s website points out, there are only 560 rooms at the hotel. And Snopes.com, a site devoted to busting myths, called the claims “questionable,” and said even if the Indian press had accurately reported the size of the president’s group of 3,000, it would mean spending $66,000 per person per day, “a figure that stretches credulity to the breaking point.”

Factcheck.org notes the entire war in Afghanistan costs the U.S. $190 million a day.

But Bachmann wasn’t alone in repeating the claims. Fox News’ Glenn Beck went as far to say that the trip will cost $2 billion for Obama to see “the festival of lights.” Rush Limbaugh, Doug Powers and Sean Hannity also repeated some of the rumors.

The Pentagon’s press secretary, Geoff Morrell, told reporters the claims were “comical.”

“I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd this notion that somehow we were deploying 10% of the Navy – some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier – in support of the president’s trip to Asia,” Morrell said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/05/2010-11-05_president_obamas_trip_to_india_will_cost_200m_a_day_gop_claim_white_house_says_t.html?r=news/politics#ixzz14QLlDaYa

So what are the numbers then? What you posted doesn’t really give much good information. Why the fuck is he even going there? That is my point. This country is BROKE and he is going over there?!? Again WTF? Is he going to ask for our jobs back?

The point is that if you believe he’s taking thousands of people and spending hundreds of millions per day then you need to turn off Fox News. It’s rotted your brain.

Yes, presidents travel. Get over it. He’s probably trying to ensure that we still have an Ally with nukes in the region once Pakistan finally stops pretending to be our ally.

OK, Presidents travel, sorry for questioning it if it has always been done that way I guess we will just keep doing it.

Oh don’t be a bitter beaver just because I didn’t take your bait. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nice sig. I’d probably vote for that ticket.

Sometimes I post stuff just because it is what I heard and need the super sloothes on here to verify it or at least discuss it.

A Paul/Paul ticket would scare way too many neo-cons, they would procbably and up dead or at least missing. lol

The 200 million per day was an unsubstantiated rumor made up in india that the conservatives jumped all over and it’s blatantly false. They had a story on CNN last night about what a crock it was and how nobody on the right fact checked before they aired it.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnns-anderson-cooper-smacks-down-bogus-reports-about-200-million-presidential-trip_b38476
PWNED by Anderson Cooper.
Sheeple much?

Yeah they’d scare the crap out of all the fake republicans. “Wait, you ACTUALLY want to make government smaller? I’m outta here!”

Well the Obama trip costs aren’t in the realm of possibility so we’ll just glaze over that one.

The GM tax cut is really odd. I suppose we shouldn’t choke a company that we just bailed out. But maybe it’s just more evidence that we shouldn’t have done what we did, but we did do what we’ve done so should we do this? I guess two wrongs make an indifferent?

I’m hoping the fed buying a bunch of bonds will sink mortgage interest rates, then I’ll the inflation wave to a practically free house. 10 years from now my mortgage payment will be the equivalent of a loaf of bread. :slight_smile:

EDIT: RIDE. I’ll ride the inflation wave. Or maybe I’ll accidentally the inflation wave. The whole thing.

People who actually have liquidity during this cheap money era have the potential for serious long-term scratch if they play their cards right. “Buy when they cry, sell when they yell!”

OK let’s move on to a new topic: George Soros
Even if you HATE Glenn Beck this could be interesting, he is doing a show on Tuesday about Soros. I figure Beck will be dead soon. lol

why would you watch Glenn Beck anyways?

this thread sucks…

the GM things is weird… i thought going into Bankruptcy allowed them to shed a lot of pension obligation or other financial burdens, but apprarently you can take the carry-forwards with you? That’s pretty awesome somehow…

The math on anything politcal leaders do doesn’t make sense… the Canadian GOVT paid $250,000 for a 6 ft tall totem pole at the G20… the kind of thing you can get at clearance at a Pier 1 store i the off season for about $86 + tax.

When I see video of George Soros talking about how the US dollar needs to be “brought down” for the “New World Order” it gets me interested, call me crazy. Maybe Beck will just make up a bunch of bs but I want to see it. You just keep watching CBC or whatever. lol

link to soros vid

Search youtube, there are probably 1000 copies of it on there. I saw it like a year ago so I don’t have a link.
Or just watch Beck tomorrow I am pretty sure it will be on there. :wink:

Don’t forget to watch Beck today at 5:00 on FOXNEWS. Even if you hate the guy this episode is probably worth watching.

Keep watching today too. :slight_smile: More to come on Spooky Dood.

Mystery missle: Isn’t strange that on 9-11 we had a list of terrorists and their best friends uncles favorite color within an hour or two but a day after a mysterious missle launch the military is going to count its missles because they still don’t know what happened?

Ok more week in review…

Obama flees country.
Cruise ship dies.
USS Ronald Regan goes to save ship.
Missle flies out of pacific ocean.
Obama comes home.
Oh yeah, Bush is all over TV with new book.

Just another week in the “free” world.:gotme:

this thread sucks

Then stay out. :slight_smile: