1 dead, 3 injured in shooting at a Harlem park

Even the worst criminals were law obeying citizens for a good period of their life. The point about being armed, is most of the terrible shootings in recent history have been done by legal gun owners.

Impossible statistic to determine? Weren’t you on the side of that gun laws don’t work? That’s also an impossible statistic to determine…

Thirdly, yes gun fights are with people that are nuts. So are the people that shoot up public places.

“Most don’t” - most aren’t on trial for such matters, the ones that don’t fit in “most” are.

If CCW guns were 100% deterrent there wouldn’t be any crimes in Texas or shootouts. They do happen. They happen in small percentages. If they don’t work 100% than it’s not a solution and no policy gun friendly or not works at 100% efficiency, goes back to this can’t be stopped and stupid or insane people shouldn’t have guns.