Trying to get you to see between the lines. It’s your car so do what you want but do you have a coupon with inline or something? I just don’t really understand why you would not go to Morgan/Synapse given their track record?
It just makes no sense. Synapse is the #1 shop in this area for ath platform. Why would you not go there? Not like them personally? Is it a matter of money? Perhaps he has a reason, I am just curious why he would not go there?
Also, just because you CAN do the work, doesn’t mean you want to. Synapse has done work for me and other shops. Why? I just don’t have the time to do it. It doesn’t make sense to me financially to take time off from work and or my family to work on a car. I did most of that shit early on, I don’t need to keep doing it.
Also, I’ve beaten more cars that were “home built” than I can even count. The “But, hey, I did the work not a shop” didn’t make much difference.
:stfu seriously… stop shit talking about everyones car there matt. i highly doubt u installed those camshafts in ur engine and degree’d them etc… and if you did… someone showed you how or was there supervising… stop being a hypocritical fucktard. he swapped a motor into a chassis that was never designed for it and has a respectable car as far as performance is concerned…
did I claim to do that? nope, so try again. Shit talking about his car? I even stated that I’m taking away from the work done on his car. Read!
If I had a dad that knew how to do it then I would have him show me. I don’t, so I had it professionally done. I’m in the complete opposite spectrum as K20 power (and most of the people here)… I’d be surprised if my father even knows where his hammer is. Not everyone has the knowledge, ability, or even tools to do major car mods like 91 teg is going to do. “DIY” is by far not the best option for most people. Me being one of them.
the cynicism is unnecessary. you were clearly raggin on him for having his dad do the work or at least overseeing the work. dont even try and pull it off as something else… i dont know the kid, never met him once in my life, but the attitude is uncalled for. you didnt do all the work on your car so i dont see how u can criticize someone else for not doing all the work on theirs.
Everyone has started somewhere from learning from someone when it comes to building a car. When I was modding my cars basically all the work was done myself with the help of friends and Hudson Valley’s shop and the professors there. I graduated from HVCC in 2004 with a degree in Automotive and have done NOTHING with the degree. It wasn’t something I wanted to do for the rest of my life.
I kind of agree that if your modding a car you should be putting in your own wrench time to consider saying “I built the car”. In the same respect some people have love for modding cars but just don’t have either the knowledge, tools, physical capability, what ever it may be to be able to do it. That I don’t see a problem with either.
hell, I’m jealous that he can do such work in his garage in a relative short time. Most people cannot. And if you cannot than my suggestion is to do what I have done and get it professionally done. K20 saying that “DIY” is the best option is way biased since his dad already knows how to do it all.
guess I hit a nerve stating that his dad did the swap. Glad you can read my mind and determine levels of attitude on a forum. Don’t read into the statement and think there is some hidden meaning. It is what it is.
agree 100%. do as much as your comfortable doing… it’s not worth doing it all yourself and F-ing up the whole car just for bragging rights.
text carries little to no expression… which causes a lot of misinterpretation and misleading info… but I guess you are special and know everything. cool
Dude, c’mon it is a somewhat biased statement by saying “DIY” when you have someone right next to you who has more knowledge then just an average joe when it comes to working on cars.
He’s exactly right, why would you risk putting something together that your not 100% on risk possibly ruining the entire build and having to start all over and resulting in the end amounting to more money, when in the beginning he could have shelled out the few grand to do it right the first time.
There’s things on a car i’d do myself and there’s things on a car I won’t even touch.
Another good post. I dislike people who drop off a car and have 0 knowledge about the car or even basic things. “Ah, I got it tuned but I have no clue what’s going on now”. Man, I can throw a ton under the bus just on that.
Some people just don’t want to do the work who can or can’t but know exactly what’s going on.
Wow, I am really surprised at a lot of you guys if I am reading into this right.
The argument started over K20 getting help from his dad to install his engine?
First off, I HOPE that NONE of you get all the modifications on your car done by shops, even worse if you have shops do all of your maintenance. The point of being in this “scene” the tuner scene, is to build cars and learn from other people who build cars.
Im not saying that you have to know how to build your car from the Frame to the Paint but most of us here should not have any problems ripping out a motor and replacing it and if we can’t, there is nothing wrong with getting help from someone who does. This goes for maintenance also. If you dont have time to work on your car or the desire, what are you doing racing it, taking it to shows, etc?
Basically, your showing it off. If you didnt build it, even though you paid for it. It isnt “Your” car, it is whatever shop that built it’s car.
There is a huge difference in building your own car and having a shop do it. DIY all the way. :idiots
I guess you missed my post. Some people just don’t have the knowledge, tools, or maybe even physically the capability to do the work themselves. Not everyone in this scene can do it themselves. What’s wrong with that? I don’t see a problem with that. I do have a problem with someone that claims they do the work themselves and doesn’t give their friends, family, shop, etc. whoever the credit behind any of the work that was done.
Everyone has their own excuse to why they don’t have time whether it be their job, which a fair majority including myself make it very difficult to have any free time to work on a car when I travel 5 days a week then have my own personal things to do aside from work. Others have family commitments, whatever it may be, still are legitamitely good reasons to have a shop get their build together rather then doing it yourself.
I’m not sure how your busy life works, maybe it’s not as busy as most and you have the extra time and a leg up on how to work on cars, but to come off with a post like you did, maybe you should have read into it a bit more and given alittle more thought.
it wasn’t started as an argument at all, really. I was trying to state that K20’s opinion of “DIY” or bust was a completely biased opinion and not an option for most people. He took offense and some lurker decided to chime in and it got a little carried away.
I have done everything to my car myself, except wideband, head studs, camshaft, clutch. I do not have the time, the skill, the patience, or the tools to do any of them myself. I would love to learn, but I’m not gonna treat my car like an experiment.
I think the point to be the “scene” is just to have an interest in cars. I don’t care if you built the car from scratch or are rich enough to buy a top-notch car off the showroom.
This thread is going to be getting cleaned up very soon, with a majority of the bullshit posts being deleted. Just a note though:
Who gives a fuck where he places his trust in who is doing his work?
Why challenge someone to a race when the car’s work is still a figment of his imagination?
Who cares who did their own work on their own car? Most of the time it’s due to lack of time when someone passes their car to someone else to do work. Other times it’s usually lack of tools, laziness, etc…
