91 teg b16a1's turbo build gone awry part Deux.

So, when they say a stock block, it’s not a stock block?

Erm? :confused

The Honda/Acura boys are weird. :slight_smile:

OK, when others talk about modding and mention a stock block, it typically (99.9999999%) means it’s the block that came in the car. When you guys talk about a stock block, it could be a block which costs over $5K (You mentioned the # above) from another car. That makes absolutely no sense to me. A block from a yugo into a Honda should not be referred to as a “stock” block.

I think vovchandr was saying that a stock block turbo build is usually 5,500-6000, not a block itself.

Will the easy and abundance of swaps in our world, it’s presumed that you will swap the block out for something else. If the block wasn’t opened or intruded during the swap in any matter, then it’s a stock swap, boltons or no boltons. A head can be any head of your choice, but still remain a “stock block”. Obviously the car is no longer stock by any means, but you can easily have a swapped turbo’d car with a different head that would still be a “stock block”.

In honda world you refer to stock block as in to the block itself, has no relation of being in the car. Not as in “that cars block that came with it stock”

Sorry for the confusion.

Honestly, your concept seems really funny to me, since by saying stock block im referring to the block not the car, you 3000gt fanboys are wierd :shifty

For example K20Power’s car, even though swaped and different intake, still has a stock block k20.

Stock block refers to stock bottom end.
Stock head refers to cams/ports/valves/springs, etc…
Stock sleeve refers to built bottom end on the stock cylinder walls.

Thanks Mr. Obvious, thats not what he was referring to :tong

He’s used to hearing people refer to stock block as in the motor that came in that car stock.

Im not trying to build the fastest car around you know…i just want something that gets up and goes :lol…team teal 2 said 300-350 now is that wheel or bhp and would i really have to sleave it for those #'s?

there is so much more I’d rather do with 10.5K than to dump it in a car. Start out slow and do it a step at a time. Do not do it all at once. You may regret it and it will be too late at that point.

We are weird? I have NEVER heard of people referring to a stock block in their car that came from a different car. That’s absurd. So, I have a stock 3/S that runs 11s stock when I swap in a Viper motor?

I was responding to the $10.5K that would get you 300-350HP. I’ve seen many Hondas from Synapse or other places that make 300-350WHP and it seems like Synapse does the same thing over and over (Which is good): BPU mods/fuel mods/turbo kit/AEM/tune. I see the $10.5K quote and wonder where it is coming from. Are you saying part of that $10.5K that is a stock block from another car? I always had the impression that most didn’t want to build the motor due to cost as it was the motor that came in the car but this conversation has confused me to all hell if the motor that is “stock” is already a swap. Might as well build it?

Boostedrust or Austin…is running the engine that came in his gsr he did nothing but boost it and is running 300 whp and has been for like 2 years and the only thing that has broken is 2 trannys and 2 axles…he paid 5g’s for his build…stock internals will handel 300 hp no problem…there are lots of people running stock internals and I mean stock…did not change anything in the engine

:nod

Im at that point now and might as well finish it. In hindsight there are better things to do :nod, especially when I got two bikes to toy around with.

Yep, but good luck getting over 400whp like the OP wants on a stock block.

Building will cost you anywhere from $1500 to $2500 depending how extensive you want the build.

Shawn like I said before the stock in “stock block” refers to the motor being not intruded into, not as in came with a car.

And it surely is always a good idea to build.

And it surely is always a good idea to build.

+1

WHP. Sleeving is usually needed for anything over 475-500whp. The stock cylinder walls simply can’t take the cylinder pressure and will crack. Sleeving puts ductile iron sleeves in which can handle much, much more cylinder pressure.

There we go. That’s what I thought. What do you get this 5K?

Very misleading but my question is answer, $10.5K to get 300-350 is a bit high and can be done with the original motor in the car.

Than it prolly wont be sleeved if with my spending limit no one thinks it will reach those #'s

Find a different platform then. It’s ironic the weird limitations:

DSM = great block/shit tranny
Honda = FWD/light/block limitations
3/S = great block/heavy/SHIT fuel system
Supra = great block/great fuel system DING DING DING

10.5K wasn’t my quote for 300-350, it was a quote for my own build of 420whp but build right.

I think alex (team teal 2) guoted that for 350whp so ask him :confused

and to answer your question yes the motor is being built