My biggest concerns are the lack of outlets throughout the house and when they wire home distribution with RG-59. Really? Electrical suppliers still sell that shit???
Congratulations, your house is brand new and I have to rewire it already!
Sounds like a win to me. I get a layout and a neighborhood I couldn’t otherwise afford, and I can remodel it to my own liking as I can afford it and as I have time. I’d want to do that to any house I bought anyway. Aside from the roof I don’t see any major repairs in the future.
Yeah, the taxes are disgusting. But $6k on a $200k home in a really nice neighborhood in a really good school district is par for the course in WNY.
As for buying a fixer-upper, I did that once. I’m selling it now that it’s fixed up. Besides, you don’t find fixer-uppers in the nice newer neighborhoods I’m looking into. Plus I don’t have time for that shit anymore. Career’s keeping me busy and there may or may not be a reason why I’m moving closer to my in-laws and to a more family oriented neighborhood… :snky:
We built our house new here in SC, almost every damn house here gets nailpops. So that I wouldn’t worry about, but roofing and insulation, hmmm careful, a family member of mine has a Ryan home and has has issues with their roof and insulation, cheap windows and shoty work… just be careful!!! They have had to replace all their windows and their entire roof!!!
wow, so much to say… so little motivation to type. The majority of Ryan Bashing I’ve heard has always been on a third party basis. I’ve heard very little complaints first hand from Ryan built owners. Here around Pittsburgh we have four levels of builders. Maronda, Ryan, Heartland Homes and Custom built. That order is also the quality and cost order. A ryan home is only as good as the subcontractors who built the home. All of the work done on the homes are through sub contractors, not necessarily always the lowest bidder although you would think that. They build enough homes to know which subcontractors are not working out for them.
I can pick up the phone and call over 2 dozen people who are currently living in either a Ryan home or townhouse ranging from 1yr old to over 20. I manage at least a dozen additional homes built by Ryan. None of which have had any major problems, or builder related issues. Any issue they have had could happen to any home, and were not builder related.
What you have to keep in mind is that you are getting what you pay for. The “custom” options when building are limited with Ryan, because they can only bulk order certain cabinets, countertops and flooring to keep costs under control. You’re not going to have four sides of brick, and everything is going to be built to MINIMUM Code requirements. Why build over code, it’s never going to be cheaper.
Anyways, as a Realtor and Property Manager, I will say that Ryan may not be the best builder and you may be able to get a better home through a custom builder… not that all custom builders are perfect (few are) but dollar for dollar or dollar for square foot, you will get a lot of bang for you buck building new.
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Oh snap baby making time!
It is always better to have the cheapest house in a neighborhood then the most expensive one. If you plan on updating the house anyways then it doesn’t really matter.
I just wouldn’t be able to justify buying a ~200K home that HAS to be updated unless you can get a good return out of it. Dropping ~5K on a roof, ~3K on HVAC, ~1500 on windows, ~5K interior adjustments, on a house just purchased for that kind of mulla would upset me lol. (Unless it would up the actual worth of the house.) I guess spending 7.5-10% of the homes purchase price in updates isn’t that bad. Hell I’ve spent that on engines for cars haha.
I’ve never heard anything good about Ryan homes and I think that stigma may stick around for a long time. I know when I was shopping for places, who built the home was a major concern of mine. I feel this might affect the resale of the house later on down the road. Just maybe though.
You’re a smart guy I don’t think you’ll make a poor decision, weigh your options and don’t rush into anything.
Well fry i would talk to the rest of the people in the neighborhood and see how they like their house since most of them are most likely ryan, and most likely done by the same crew.
edit: make sure you’re wearing some nice collar ties, with a fancy pocket square, rent an M5, and make sure they see you put on your 300$ leather driving gloves before you leave
I love threads like these.
“Have you heard anything bad about Ryan homes?”
Almost 50 posts of Ryan bashing later…
“Ok, I’m probably still going to buy it.”
lol well none of the bashing amounts to a show stopper. The roof is maintenance and I’m not going to avoid what would otherwise be an ideal home because of early maintenance. The rotting, sagging, falling apart problems don’t really apply any more to a Ryan home of the last 15 year than they do to any other homes. Any home can have problems.
I mean, I’m going to look at the house again myself and I’ve got a really good home inspector for after that, but if everything still looks cool then I’m OK with my money going to a better location and home layout at the expense of interior fixtures. I’ll update as I go, and it’s one of the cheaper houses on the block so I don’t really have to worry about over-upgrading and not getting my money back.
That being said it’s still an ass-ton of money for a house with laminate flooring and countertops, a cheap roof, and creaky floors even if it is 4 bedrooms and 2.5 baths in a nice neighborhood that butts up against a park. So I’m not sold, but I’m not scared off either.
Just remember the asking price means NOTHING. You offer what it is worth, you are in the driver’s seat.
My father is a home inspector. People make the mistake of getting emotionally attached to a home, then no matter what they will buy it, no fucking matter what.
I live 1 mile down the road on stony point and pair 100k less for the same neiborhood, and 10 times the property. My brother bough a house around the corner on the river and paid 225 and it looked great, had an awesome floor plan, and of course a great neighborhood. He has pumped 50k into a roof, siding, doors, windows and it still is a shit house.
Houses are not how they are finished, that’s what people forget. A roof is a weekend job, unless it’s water damaged OSB, then it’s a month. S bathroom remodel is a week job, unless the wiring and plumbing are garbage. A finished basement is Awesome, until your find out that there isn’t enough back fill around the foundation and the walls are being heaved in. Once that happens you lost 100k instantly because it’s the number 1 problem on grand island and everyone looks for it.
And the number 1 reason for living on grand island is LAND!!! For 200k a friend bought a house on Love with 8 acres, a shop set 400 feet off the road with a driveway to it. All very beautiful. Not to be land locked into a development where everyone gives you a shitty look when you play with anything engine related but a lawn mower and you take a piss while looking in your neighbors kids room because the houses are so close.
I’ve lived on GI for 25 years, your paying too much for the recently built garbage house.
You know how new build windows have a flanged edge sort of thing? What is that supposed to sit up against? How do new windows get installed?
It didn’t really sink in at the time, but I remember looking at the windows from the outside and thinking it was funny that I could see the flange. Shouldn’t that be up against the wood, then sided and flashed over top of it?
yes
usually there is J /siding or flashing, or some type of board depending on the style of the house
and you shouldnt be able to see the nail flange because there should be flashing tape covering it anyways
Yes what? Yes they’re installed wrong?
Never heard good feedback about Ryan homes, similar to the posts here.
For ~250k you could get a brand new enery star certified 2500 sqft 4bd 3bath place in Alden, 45-50 house development with just under an acre of land.
Fully insulated 8’ ceiling basement (finished would be another 1200 addtl sq ft), 2 1/2 car garage, Kraftmaid solid wood cabinets, trayed ceilings, crown moldings, on and on…
That 7yr old house was 215k and you are most likely going to dump a decent amount of cash in the next 3-5 yrs. I would keep looking or have the inspector tear that place apart and lowball them.
sorry i edited my post lol.
it should go, osb, tyvek, usually there is like a sill on the bottom to help with water, then caulk all around the nailer flange sealing the flange to the tyvek/osb, then its nailed on, then flashing tape going over the nail flange to the tyvek and goes all the way around the window, and it’s then sided and use whatever style of “border” around it whether its just j channel/siding/azec board/flashing whatever
Oh fuck. I’m going to go back and look again to make sure my memory isn’t deceiving me, but if that’s the case then hello rotten walls. :io:
Now I’m thinking… I really didn’t want to go that high but I talked to a decent builder (Bruno) who could build a nice colonial for $230k, but that was with tile and granite and all that. If I could get the house down to $220k why wouldn’t I do that instead of buying an old Ryan for $205? It’s really more than I should spend but I could swing the difference no problem
im sure as of right now the walls are fine, but you dont know for how much longer. and it would obv need to be addressed. And if that ceiling fan in the bathroom is NOT working… say goodbye to your roof. (find out how long). Especially because people don’t open the window half the time, and even more-so in winter
You’ll be amazed after working in so many attics how many builders do not even vent the ceiling fan to a hat in the roof, or one on the side of the house, or even vent it AT ALL :wtf: . And no you dont need 17 layers of insulation in your attic. stfu hueghsco(sp). Every attic ive ever worked in has been in PITA to wire anything, and i have to wear a mask because of how moldy it is. The attic needs to breathe
Actually it goes BC, tyvek…if it was done right, but osb is used so often people think it’s the right way. And there is a huge difference from OSB to real plywood. OSB is cheap, but it’s a garbage product if you want a house to go the test of time. There is zero tolerance to water and it doesn’t hold a nail worth shit after one bit of high humidity.
Attics DOOO need to breath, so many people don’t understand that, and along with breathing, you need to be able to work on the mother fucker once an a while. Spraying a shit tone of cellulose 3 feet thick just makes one huge stinky mold pile, and makes fixing anything impossible. You shouldn’t have to start a project with a shovel in your attic to get to the problem to save 3 cents in heating costs.
Ieatpaint: my house has tongue and grove roof as well, that mother along with attic knee walls makes it so rigid its insane. Walk on a modern house and it feels like a spring board compared to a rock solid tongue and groove roof.
There is the proper way to build a house, and there is the way that holds siding, drywall and a roof on just long enough to get to closing, then the whole fucker starts shifting and shedding shingles and siding like a husky in spring.
Did I mention that there were a couple of spots where the siding was broken? I wonder if it blew off and broke when it landed…