Well They towed that old ass bitch away finally. Wonder where and what’s being done with it
I’m very curious about this as well. I heard it on the news this morning and nobody knows where it’s headed. Someone has to know.
I really liked that ship. It was actually not that bad on the inside, just looked like a rat on the out. It was originally intended to be a floating restaurant/casino but that never panned out.
I too am curious to know where she is headed
It’s going to India to be scrapped is what I was told. Guess it’s worth about 10 million in scrap.
Now this is just what I told. I found both the destination and the value a little hard to believe, but with the high price of metals I guess it’s possible.
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It’s going to India to be scrapped is what I was told. Guess it’s worth about 10 million in scrap.
Now this is just what I told. I found both the destination and the value a little hard to believe, but with the high price of metals I guess it’s possible.
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If it’s partially true, I wonder if the owner is going to pay Buffalo rent for letting it sit there so long.
hahahh the aqua marine was pile of shit
damnit i wanted that boat
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If it’s partially true, I wonder if the owner is going to pay Buffalo rent for letting it sit there so long.
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Like Buffalo needed the space for anything.
Hell, if you want to store a rusted out, non-working, crippled boat, I think the Buffalo waterfront is a perfect location. Glad they got it out of there before the harbor redevelopment was done though.
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It was originally intended to be a floating restaurant/casino but that never panned out.
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suprise suprise. what a shcoker, something in buffalo that didnt pan out.
Hey this reminds me of that money pit called the Fast Ferry back in Rochester!
I liked that ship. Thought it was cool seeing that old girl tied up there.
Found this trying to search around.
http://www.boatnerd.com/passage/buffalo.htm
It mentions the Aquarama leaving and also has a link to a Buffalo News article that also mentioned it going to India for dismantling as scrap metal. Oh well. It had to go somewhere.
EDIT: Found some pics too: http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs/newsthumbs_476.htm
I was just sailing there yesterday and noticed that it was gone. Now just get rid of the steel mill remnants and the grain elevators (ducking under rocks thrown by preservationists) and get some development going down there. The windmills are a great start.
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Found this trying to search around.
http://www.boatnerd.com/passage/buffalo.htm
It mentions the Aquarama leaving and also has a link to a Buffalo News article that also mentioned it going to India for dismantling as scrap metal. Oh well. It had to go somewhere.
EDIT: Found some pics too: http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs/newsthumbs_476.htm
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Wow…I missed it by about 3 hours.
The mills that are next to where the boat was docked are set to come down and become condos I think. It’s all part of the waterfront project.
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Found this trying to search around.
http://www.boatnerd.com/passage/buffalo.htm
It mentions the Aquarama leaving and also has a link to a Buffalo News article that also mentioned it going to India for dismantling as scrap metal. Oh well. It had to go somewhere.
EDIT: Found some pics too: http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs/newsthumbs_476.htm
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Nice find. :tup:
Pretty much confirms the story I heard this weekend then.
So she’s already heading down the Welland Canal. I’m assuming they’ll transfer her to one of those transport ships like they used to move the USS Cole after it was attacked. I don’t think you can tow a ship that size in the open ocean. If you don’t remember that, or never saw how they did it, check this out:
too bad they are taking it away I really wanted to check that place out more heh
here’s a pic from a few years ago
great to see an eyesore like that being hauled away.
They should sell those grain mills for scrap to india.
Some additional history on it. As a boat guy I have to admit it’s sad to see a vessel with that much history end up sold for scrap.
In her better days as a Lake Erie cruise ship:
Lots more pictures here:
http://www.timetableimages.com/maritime/images/moncbr.htm
By Brian Cross, Star Staff Reporter
A few tugs from a few tugs, and the colossal Aquarama slipped from the muck of its mooring Tuesday, bound for Buffalo and hopefully a future more promising than its notorious past.For six years this 160-metre, seven-storey former Second World War troop ship has been mired in a rented west-end slip barely large enough to hold it.
Passersby gawked at the derelict, rusting monster, wondering how glorious its past had been, how majestic it may once have looked, and why the heck it was here.
“There she goes,” observed part-owner James Everatt, as two tugboats gently guided the Aquarama–currently going by its original name, the Marine Star–down the Detroit River at the start of a 30-hour journey.
It’s going to another slip in Buffalo, N.Y. and then to a shipyard where it will undergo a $30-million-to-$50-million refit to make it a huge casino ship.
Everatt said that with 250,000 square feet of floor space, the ship–pure white, looking like a sleek, new cruise ship–will be the largest casino ship in North America.
It will employ 1,400 people and generate a gross income of between $150 million and $330 million annually, said Everatt, who refused to disclose its ultimate destination.
That would be something new for this ocean-going orphan. It was a Liberty ship, built in 1945 in Chester, Pa., as a U.S. troop carrier, but it made just one trip across the Atlantic before the war ended.
It was designed for 35-to-40 year service, but during its five decades it has actually been in service for around five years. A Detroit industrialist eventually bought it and spent $8 million converting the USS Marine Star into a cruise-ferry ship that took passengers between Detroit and Cleveland in the late 1950s and early 1960s.
The new Aquarama had nine decks containing four restaurants, four bars, movie theatres, recreation areas and room for 160 cars and 2,600 passengers. But it was remembered as much for its mishaps as for its Great Lakes grandeur.
Rammed sea walls, docks
Newspaper stories nicknamed it the Crusherama and described it as the most ill-tempered ship on the lakes after it rammed the sea wall of what is now Windsor’s Dieppe Gardens. It also crashed into the Detroit News dock on the Detroit side and bumped into a U.S. Navy cruiser near Cleveland. And in 1957, its gigantic wake was blamed for nearly drowning a two-year-old girl at an Amherstburg beach and swamping two small fishing boats.“One time, I remember when I was a kid, it came down the Amherstburg side (of the river), it bounced boats around, tore docks out,” remembered Wes Ball, an Amherstburg marine enthusiast who drove to Windsor to watch the departure of the fabled ship Tuesday morning.
Former Windsor harbor master Rod Beaton was delighted to hear the Aquarama will no longer grace Windsor’s riverfront. “It looked like hell, and right now it’s the ugliest pile of junk,” Beaton said.
The problem was the ship was designed to carry cargo on the open seas. When it’s not loaded down, it sits high in the water and become prey to winds and the currents in the Detroit River. With just one rear prop (the prop shaft is pure steel, 60 feet long and two feet in diameter), it couldn’t manoeuvre in close, Great Lakes quarters. The thin, tall ship was designed for the open seas, but Beaton quipped: It should already have been recycled through three Toyotas now."
Sold to a scrap dealer, all the old steel and aluminum would be worth over $1 million, but Everatt is confident there’s lots of life left in the Aquarama.
Everatt is a St. Thomas businessman who got together with 22 other investors from his area to purchase the Aquarama–mothballed since 1963–for a rumored $3 million in 1987. The original plan was to convert it into a casino for Detroit’s riverfront, but citizen referendums in the late 1980s killed their dreams. They next proposed sprucing it up to make it the centerpiece of a waterfront revitalization in Port Stanley, but that scheme also imploded due to government red tape, according to Everatt.
“It was not a great experience, it was very frustrating,” he said. “I thought that, as a Canadian. it would be fantastic if it remained in Canada, but the opportunities are not here for us.”
Storage spot found in Windsor
The ship bounced around for a few years, before a storage spot was found in Windsor. For six years, Everatt and his group forked out over $400,000 to rent the slip and pay for securities and utilities. The ship was recently purchased by a Delaware-based cruise company, which Everatt owns shares in. When it’s refitted, it will get bow and stern thrusters that will enable it to better manoeuvre.Converting it to a casino and moving it to its new home will take two years, Everatt estimated. “We need to get on with what we’re doing.”
Preparations to move the ship began four days ago. There was insurance to secure, and inspections to make sure it was seaworthy. A backhoe arrived to dig out the anchor that had been buried 15 feet into the ground by the ship’s bow.
Spectators from the neighborhood stopped and peered through the fencing as the Aquarama was tugged out into the river. Although most of the ship’s insides were gutted by Everatt’s group, there were still many remnants from its heyday as a cruise-ferry ship.
Mark Rose, who was contracted to guard the Aquarama during the last three years, said he used to spend hours exploring the bowels of the old ship. Each time, he would make a new discovery–the four-storey-high engine room, portholes, rooms and hallways. There were 30-year-old dishes emblazoned with the latter A, napkins, placemats, cups, kitchen utensils, pop and cigarette machines, and a working baby grand piano.
While in Windsor, the pale-green and rust ship became a target for thieves and vandals. Most of the glass windows were smashed out. Some intruders only wanted to get in and scrawl their names on the bedraggled ship.
Considering its disappointing history, having only actually sailed for one-tenth of its life, Rose is hopeful that Everatt’s lofty plans for the Aquarama come true. As his former charge moved slowly away Tuesday, the now-unemployed security guard said: “I really hope it sails again.”
Sounds like with the jump in raw metal value over the last couple of years, it’s finally become financially justifiable to do anything with it besides let it sit.
The problem was the ship was designed to carry cargo on the open seas. When it’s not loaded down, it sits high in the water and become prey to winds and the currents in the Detroit River. With just one rear prop (the prop shaft is pure steel, 60 feet long and two feet in diameter), it couldn’t manoeuvre in close, Great Lakes quarters. The thin, tall ship was designed for the open seas, but Beaton quipped: It should already have been recycled through three Toyotas now."