Why would they move 2 blocks? Or would it be an expansion?
^Expansion with many more jobs.
I believe they are bringing in people from all other HSBC offices around the area. My friend and I were talking about this at work. It’s probably cheaper to build new rather than renovate/tear down an existing building.
Yeah but does this make less parking for more people?
They want to be closer to marine drive.
Actually it’s along the lines of they’re not happy with what they’re paying at the Center vs. its lack of modern business amenities, a desire to bring all of their WNY non-branch employees and some from other areas under the roof of one regional operations center, and a worldwide push for all of their offices to be new LEED certified green buildings. The building outside Chicago that is supposed to be the model has all kinds of hippie crap like a paperless cafeteria, rainwater collection, solar panels, etc.
The majority of the added jobs either DT or at Crosspoint would be from NYC, they sold our 29 story building at 452 5th Ave in Manhattan and only leased back part of it, like they did with the Center. They are phasing it out down to 11 floors.
What’s parking? You’re supposed to ride your bike through 3 feet of snow so you can’t be green. 
I agree. However it’s going to be damn hard to do. Many large corporate entities who could act as anchors in our area already work off a tourism model due to our “seasonal complications” and they’re not anywhere near the waterfront.
It might be time to focus on getting something down there to employ people and not just give them something to buy. If we have a large work force centered on the waterfront, small businesses will take advantage of the increased flow of people and build around it. Like how the original steel plants attracted development around them. But we’d need to find an employer willing to start this trend, and in order to do that we’d need to give them incentive, and in order to do that we’d need the right politics to be in play, and in order to do that… well… you see the problem.
And the only resource we have that could be developed is fresh water. Fresh water is actually more scarce than oil, and we’ve got a ton of it. The “Buffalo Water” proposal (although kinda funny to us) actually had some merit. With large cities like Atlanta running out, we might eventually have an opportunities in the future but we’re not their yet.
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Start small and sustainable. If you put a store you support the needs of the people living in the area, they create foot traffic, you employ X amount of people to operate the store, businesses can then start to decide if they want to be there after.
If you build it they will come.
It is my belief that we need to focus on our internal development before large outside vendors will give us the time of day. AND furthermore, if no one is going to give us the time of day (Bass pro, IKEA) then it’s up to us and only us to make something happen. This is like the spoiled kid who expects everything handed to them, sometimes you have to work for what you want. And it all starts with the first step.
Hopefully something good will come of this.
Let’s bribe google to come here. Offer them eleventybilliondollars. But seriously, if yahoo is using our cold weather for cooling…what better place to harvest wind and ice cold temps than the waterfront.
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OMG OMG OMG!
SUBMARINE TOURS!
Do you really want to know what’s lurking below the water?
The Mafia from the 50’s does not agree with submarine tours, and since they are a special interest group, the idea will never go through anyhow.
Yes! See the actual water intake! Dive into Thompson’s hole! 18th century wrecked schooners in the lake! 21st century wrecked Bayliners in the river! Fish! It’d be awesome!
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And skeletons tethered to cinder blocks!
lol @ wrecked bayliners
Wow you can get a 16 passenger submarine for $1.5MM. I’ve never heard of a submarine tour boat this before. I’m brilliant!
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Rightfully so, that water isn’t going anywhere.
You know even though you brought this up as a joke, the submarine tours are interesting. With the almost Bahama like clarity due to the zebra mussel you’d actually be able to see a lot. There are several accessible ship wrecks in the lake.
Tourist Submarine Business
Introduction to the Business of Tourist Submarines
The most successful tourist submarine operating today has gross revenues of US$1 million per month derived from a single 48-passenger submarine and associated souvenir sales. Annual net pre-tax revenue from this operation is in excess of $7 million. The profits are based on a 10-12 dive per day schedule, 330 operating days per year, a 90+% passenger load factor and a ticket price of $95. While this operation is, indeed, extraordinarily successful, it suffices to illustrate the profit potential of a tourist submarine operating business.
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I don’t think I’m going to change anything because I don’t have the influence but if through social media this gets to the right people and those people start thinking and talking it could be a good step in the right direction.