http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/east-side/article493642.ece
You definitely don’t want a place that sells groceries at great prices in a poor section of the city. :picard:
OK, so I just read the heading so far. Please tell me it’s being blocked because of environmental reasons. Rare bird crapped there once or something.
Briefly heard about this… I’m still on the fence because I love the Broadway Market and would hate to see the vendors there get owned anymore than they already have.
The profits of businesses inside there like the E. M. Chrusciki bakery go to the local owners and probably get spent in our local economy. Aldi’s profits go back to Deutschland.
FYI for everyone, there’s already a Save A Lot inside of the market.
Be glad someone is willing to take the financial risk and build a structure / business there in the first place :ham:
Oh, because they want the store close to the street for that urban feel. Don’t want to ruin the charming feel of that abandoned kmart parking lot. lol
Oh, and of course:
The land at 998 Broadway is viewed by many as Buffalo’s most storied retail address. For decades, it was home to Sattler’s. Manuele said any future development at the site should include some type of plaque that showcases the location’s prominent past.
Maybe they should just put a grain elevator there.
Charlie Sheen.
I’d say pick another location not to far away, but not right next to the broadway market. You are taking money away from potention new employers and business making the market let attractive to some when aldis is right there.
I have a friend who started a business in the broadway market who has recently moved locations and hired a lot more people due to the business and support from the market. Would not like to see this jeapordize the chances of others.
Just my thought. Will it affect me? Not at all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I’d be surprised if half the people on this forum could even find Broadway and Fillmore, let alone give a shit about what’s going on there. I get the vibe that many people are ok with “letting it rot.”
Is anyone surprised? C’mon…
I don’t want any part of the city to rot, but I just wish people in buffalo could grasp the concept of a “sunk cost.” Don’t avoid improving what it is because of what it used to be. If a fucking Aldis can put a market out of business it’s already dead.
Exactly. I don’t want to see Buffalo fail. I just get disgusted when I watch them repeatedly smash themselves in the face with a hammer and then cry that it’s the suburbs fault they’re so ugly.
I wasn’t referencing you Fry. lol
You’re right, a lot of people would call it dead because of the fragile state it’s in. It’s also a pretty impractical concept nowadays because no one lives in the area of the Broadway Market but they live a mile or two from Wegman’s. Convenience is the number one factor in determining which business someone will frequent and since no one lives near the BM, it’s pretty much SOL.
However, it’s currently in a stage where they’re trying a lot of new, creative ideas to try to spark interest in the market again. There’s also a lot of organizations like Broadway/Fillmore Alive and The Despensata Corporation that are trying to find ways to bring people back into the area to live. Once people live there, the market will have a chance again. I just don’t want anything to come into the picture (like an Aldi) that can kill the market before we get to that point.
---------- Post added at 02:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:20 PM ----------
It’s a “what came first, the chicken or the egg” type of deal. The city is in rough shape because of the massive exodus of educated, dynamic people to the suburbs. All of the money left when they left. However, you can’t blame any of the people who left because they didn’t want to put up with a lot of the bullshit that comes along with living in the city. The city just needs decent people to stick around and weather the storm.
No doubt the mass exodus from Buffalo to the suburbs caused the city to decline. However that was decades ago and Buffalo still continues to make horrible decision after horrible decision when it comes to revitalization.
Fighting Pano’s expansion
Fighting a major hotel near Buffalo State College
Sue to prevent the Buffalo casino from being built in Cheektowaga and then sue to prevent it from being in Buffalo either.
The Peace Bridge
Furman Blvd/Route 5. Congrats, you spent millions and replaced one elevated highway cutting you off from the water with… another elevated highway cutting you off from the water.
Grain elevators
Erie Basin Marina fighting Tucker and preventing him from keeping Dugs Dive open year round (or at least later than it currently is allowed by the lease)
Re-electing Byron Brown
The entire Williams\his #2 and the buyout controversy
These are just a few I can think of off the top of my head.
Sorry, but the city of Buffalo itself is just a joke to me. It seems like they took something that once was amazing and let it just go to waste and just never gave a shit again about it.
What does the city really have besides bars, abandoned buildings, grain elevators/ abandoned as well. A piece of shit water front that has so much potential but seems everyone just shoots everything down. Roads that noone can stand driving on. I mean the list could keep going I’m sure.
edit: How much longer till the city of Buffalo turns into Niagara Falls, right near the falls.
I love Buffalo and will live in the city for years to come. But damn they are messing up politically. I was talking to the gf about this the other day and its like they keep turning down opportunity not understanding the state the city is in and acting like they just have so many people interested that they can afford to shut down potential deals all the time. Makes me sad. Plus side is I will be able to go buy a house in the same neighborhood with Jager in the next year or two. I have lived in cities that were doing well(Charlotte, Seattle) and to live in the biggest nicest houses of the city in either was something that could never be dreamed of for most. This is why subrubs make sense to many as who can blame them i wouldn’t want to raise a family living in a huge apt building dt with no space and such.
---------- Post added at 10:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------
LOL yammy most of that isnt worth responding to. There is plenty of great things in the city. Parks shopping culture etc.
There’s still a bit of an exodus going on though Jay. The census data that just came out showed the Broadway/Fillmore area as being the hardest hit when it came to losing population, and Lancaster as the place that gained the most people. We’re demolishing houses all the time in the city while we’re building new ones in Clarence Center. Even from my personal experience, I can think of ten or so people I know who lived in the city and have since left, just within the past couple years.
The bad decisions made in Buffalo are definitely HUGE reasons why the city is in such bad shape. The two that are most often cited are putting UB North in Amherst not downtown, and building Rich Stadium/Ralph Wilson in Orchard Park and not downtown.
I’ve heard of Pano’s expansion being brought up before as a problem, but personally I see it as a drop in the bucket. The grain elevators are obviously much more serious when it comes to the whole development vs. preservation argument. I relate to the preservationists’ idea that once things are knocked down we can’t bring them back. Very true. I can also relate the the fact that we NEED development. How about a compromise then? Why don’t we keep one or two of the grain elevator complexes and then demolish the rest?
Route 5 is definitely a fuck up. They shouldn’t have kept it as elevated, but NYS’s argument is that it’s a barrier from the snow being blown off the lake in the winter. We still need to get better access between the inner and outer harbors. Rebuilding the Michigan Street bridge would be awesome but General Mills is EXTREMELY against it.
Byron Brown fucking sucks and I can give you 20 reasons why I agree with you, but some other time. lol
I’m really not convinced of the economic benefits casinos create, especially seeing as how the area around Seneca Niagara is still FUCKING HORRIBLE. Even right across from the casino.
We could go on and on.
Buldoze the whole city and start over.
people need a reason to come into the city make some
no, instead lets save every old building and F**k progressing the city into what it “could” be
