I was simply stating that the dollar amount that is associated with the yearly asset forfeiture is ASTOUNDING. I work for the town of cheektowaga, and the police department’s asset forfeiture account is insane, I find it pretty hard to believe they are taking that dollar amount from legitimate criminal activity annually. I don’t want to say too much, but its a really huge number.
I think the purpose of no knock raids is the fact that they don’t yell “Police”.
Police can not keep anything that is not linked to a crime, or turned in by someone. If it’s legit money, they have to give it back. This is fact.
This account likely also includes assets confiscated for reasons of not making payments (repos), etc… Although that’s usually handled by the Sheriff’s office, not individual PDs.
No knock raids aren’t done that often, but once you are inside, you make your presence known. It’s not announcing it before you go inside that makes it a no knock raid.
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“The Ogden incident was among a growing number of no-knock police raids last year, a tactic that has grown in use from 2,000 to 3,000 raids a year in the mid-1980s, to 70,000 to 80,000 annually, says Peter Kraska, a professor of criminal justice at Eastern Kentucky University who tracks the issue.”
And thats a 2011 article
It’s not that hard to get your stache back…
Let me rephrase. Those aren’t done around here too often!
I fucking hate you btw now im going to burn all day finding out the local stats
Hah, then I will just rephrase again 
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Also, on the talk of asset forfeiture: last year in Monroe county, the MSCO siezed over 9 million in assets. This was almost entirely property that people failed to pay for, and then we given back to the official owner or sold at auction to pay for its bills (cars, homes, machinery, equipment, etc…). It was not 9 million taken and given to the police in any way. They do charge to serve papers though, and that raises a lot of money for the office.
This is my biggest problem with no-knock warrants. I don’t know how the passes a 4 amendment court challenge.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[SUP][a][/SUP] against unreasonable searches and seizures
How can the people feel secure in their houses knowing that any minute the police may kick down the door with guns drawn on nothing more than 3rd party testimony?
Is that true? I thought you needed more evidence to perform. I know there was just a supreme court case involving traffic stops based on 3rd party testimony.
Well in the case Jam just posted the cops got their no-knock warrant based on 3rd party testimony that turned out to be wrong.
KWTX says an informant allegedly saw white bags of cocaine transported in and around the house.
Maybe there was more evidence in support of the warrant that they didn’t mention but I question how much more considering THEY DIDN’T FIND ANYTHING.
They’ll never catch me riding dirty.
Right, but you need to get a lawyer and prove it’s legit. The whole point of the video is that the cost of recovery could exceed the money seized, or take a huge chunk out of it.
Public defender is free. If there is no evidence other than the money, there is no case to be had. In the video, the guy had drugs (a very small amount, but still drugs) in his car. He may need a lawyer (or a free public defender).
I initally thought that this was a typo. You can’t be sure of that, even if you buy a brand new car, how do you know for certain the person transporting it or detailing it or whatever didn’t drop a stem or a tasty nug somewhere in your vehicle?
i have a friend that was thoroughly cleaning a car he was selling after he had driven it a few years. He found a heroin kit (syringe and spoon) and a glass pipe tucked under the seat. He drove around FOR YEARS with it in the car, and he’s never shot heroin.
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Also, the story I posted previously is sad, but this is just plain gut-wrenching.
again, no drugs were found.
I took my saturn to dunville back. When that was a thing. 2 days after returning i find a bag with hundreds of pills under my passanger seat. I was fucking pissed! It was not mine and i crossed the fuckiNg border TWICE!!!
Public defenders are only available for criminal cases. Civil forfeiture isn’t classified under the criminal code, so there’s no grounds for the appointment of a public defender. It’s civil action against the property, not the individual, so the owner of the property isn’t even the defendant. There’s no public defender for civil litigation, and certainly not for an asset. As they explain in the video, it’s a tidy loophole to take money(or other assets) from someone based on suspicion of a crime, not being convicted of a crime (that’s criminal forfeiture, and is subject to much more stringent rules).
The one guy had an incredibly small amount of weed, the other guy had nothing, and there was no justifiable reason for seizure in either case. Neither of them were charged with a criminal act related to the civil seizure. They had to sue in order to recover their property(as plaintiffs). Civil litigation is not cheap.
Bump, with a Jeff Goldblum cameo, lol: