What about Howard Dean do you like so much?
he like his outburts…like this
cut + paste = yes
One: it’s “Blanyer”.
Two: He’s for health care for all children (something greatly needed). He opposed the war in Iraq and hasn’t flip-flopped on the issue unlike the other Democrats…he knows that capturing Saddam Hussein is nothing more than some good publicity for the war. The situation in Iraq hasn’t been getting better because they genuinely don’t want us there. The U.S. supporters we see in media coverage of Iraq is definitely the minority. He wants to balance the budget as he did in Vermont. He’s pro-choice. He’s against the Patriot Act and the civil-rights violations that it allows. He wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts that helped create the massive defecit the Bush administration sired. As unpopular as repealing taxes is, it is a necessary evil to restore economic growth. He wants to make sure Social Security and Medicare are still there for us when we are 65. As for foreign policy, he is very resolute in destroying terrorism in all its forms. He isn’t anti-war, he just didn’t feel Iraq was an immediate priority. We had no evidence that Iraq was any threat to us. IMO, Bush believed that since we couldn’t find Osama bin Laden, getting one asshole Arab was as good as any other. Dean also believes that we need to create stronger relations with China and Russia to guarantee that the major nations on the planet have a good rapport with one another.
I could go on an on (I used to want to go into the Political Science field). If you need more background on Dean, all of his views are on www.deanforamerica.com
Originally posted by slowcamaro
he like his outburts…like this
for some odd reason i like the way the guy gets pumped up… he either means what he says or he can work a crowd really well.
Originally posted by HaNnIBaL64
for some odd reason i like the way the guy gets pumped up… he either means what he says or he can work a crowd really well.
exactly. he’s not a politician who reads a boring, prepared speech. he says what he feels.
Originally posted by HaNnIBaL64
for some odd reason i like the way the guy gets pumped up… he either means what he says or he can work a crowd really well.
he did a great job in whatever he does since falling in the point rapidly…but its politics …i am not ripping anyone i was just posting…everyone has there own reason for who they like…but i am not running around reciting any political propaganda
who really cares? hes not pushing it on you is he?
Originally posted by slowcamaro
he did a great job in whatever he does since falling in the point rapidly…but its politics …i am not ripping anyone i was just posting…everyone has there own reason for who they like…but i am not running around reciting any political propaganda
I didn’t start talking about politics until someone asked me to.
The link in my sig is there for people to click on if they’re interested. I respect people’s opinion and if they believe Bush (or Kerry, or even Al Sharpton) to be a better man for the job, then more power to them.
Originally posted by michaelblanyer
cut + paste = yesOne: it’s “Blanyer”.
Two: He’s for health care for all children (something greatly needed). He opposed the war in Iraq and hasn’t flip-flopped on the issue unlike the other Democrats…he knows that capturing Saddam Hussein is nothing more than some good publicity for the war. The situation in Iraq hasn’t been getting better because they genuinely don’t want us there. The U.S. supporters we see in media coverage of Iraq is definitely the minority. He wants to balance the budget as he did in Vermont. He’s pro-choice. He’s against the Patriot Act and the civil-rights violations that it allows. He wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts that helped create the massive defecit the Bush administration sired. As unpopular as repealing taxes is, it is a necessary evil to restore economic growth. He wants to make sure Social Security and Medicare are still there for us when we are 65. As for foreign policy, he is very resolute in destroying terrorism in all its forms. He isn’t anti-war, he just didn’t feel Iraq was an immediate priority. We had no evidence that Iraq was any threat to us. IMO, Bush believed that since we couldn’t find Osama bin Laden, getting one asshole Arab was as good as any other. Dean also believes that we need to create stronger relations with China and Russia to guarantee that the major nations on the planet have a good rapport with one another.
I could go on an on (I used to want to go into the Political Science field). If you need more background on Dean, all of his views are on www.deanforamerica.com
Where to start. First off, there should be healthcare for EVERY AMERICAN, not just children. 2nd off, to say that all the other democrats flip-flopped on the issue is nothing but pro-Dean propaganda. Liberman has been the most consistent on that issue. Only problem is, the canidate’s stance on wether or not we should have gone to war is fucking pointless. I agree that we should have exhausted more diplomatic avenues to get Saddam out of power, and i also think that the international community should be MUCH more involved than it is right now. Your opinions, and the others that share your opinion on WHY Bush went to war, is so skewed its ridiculous. There is no way that he has that much power. It was not a personal vendetta against Saddam. It was not a PR stunt. Its a great thing that Saddam is out of power. Now moving on to your criticism of the media. For as much as everyone balks at how liberal the media is, you are now gonna try and spin it so that the media is completly misleading the American people in a giant conspiracy to make the world think that all Iraqi’s love us, when in fact they really hate us being there? Are you off your rocker? The US LIBERATED them from the grasp of a muderous, genocidal dictator. Of course there are a few religious fanatics that are doing all these bombings, but to make a blanket statement that Iraq in general does not want us in there is a total lie. I dont care too much for Dean. i dont feel particluarly strong about any of the democrats, but i do want to get Bush out of office. Im a registered Libertarian, so ill probably vote along those lines, unless its a super close race between Dean and Edwards or Kerry, in which case ill vote against Dean.
Originally posted by Darkstar
Where to start. First off, there should be healthcare for EVERY AMERICAN, not just children.
Dean wants health care for everyone, but he illustrates the point most often using children as an example.
I loathe Lieberman because he’s very anti-1st Amendment. Lieberman was one of the politicians who’ve campaigned to stop certain videogames being released, and it was pressure from him in 1993 that got Night Trap, a Sega CD game, pulled from the shelves.
night trap i think i still have that game
in all honesty i dont trust any of the people running for president…you have no idea if they are ever going to live up to what they say they are going to do…
Originally posted by michaelblanyer
Dean wants health care for everyone, but he illustrates the point most often using children as an example.I loathe Lieberman because he’s very anti-1st Amendment. Lieberman was one of the politicians who’ve campaigned to stop certain videogames being released, and it was pressure from him in 1993 that got Night Trap, a Sega CD game, pulled from the shelves.
seems like all the canidates have one thing about them that pisses me off. I share alot of the views of democrats, but disagree on many of their base issues. Democrats are for more government, and im very much against that. Libertarian ideas are just so much sensible and concurrent with a free democracy.
“This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians.”
Hugh Downs, Co-host ABC-TV’s 20/20, 31 March 1997
Libertarians are strongly opposed to any sort of censorship, wants a large amount of educational reforms, including the elimination of the Dept of Education, have excellent ideas to put an end to political corruption, and their drug policies are truly enlightening
Originally posted by Darkstar
seems like all the canidates have one thing about them that pisses me off. I share alot of the views of democrats, but disagree on many of their base issues. Democrats are for more government, and im very much against that. Libertarian ideas are just so much sensible and concurrent with a free democracy.“This country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians.”
Hugh Downs, Co-host ABC-TV’s 20/20, 31 March 1997
Oh, I definitely think both major parties suck…
but until there’s a viable third party candidate, I’m going to support the lesser of two evils.
If it were up to me, John McCain would’ve won the republican nomination three and a half years ago. He would’ve been better than Bush.
Originally posted by michaelblanyer
but until there’s a viable third party candidate, I’m going to support the lesser of two evils.
Yep, i was behind McCain over Bush. The sad thing is, if more people like yourself wouldnt think that there is no viable canidate, and wouldnt write 3rd parties off as a lost cause, then they would actually have a chance. The way the laws are set up right now, unless you get a certain percentage of the vote, you are unable to draw on government supplied campaign money, which is bullshit on so many different levels. If the people could actually find out about these 3rd parties, then they would be much more inclined to vote for them. And the media pisses me off by never giving any 3rd party canidates ANY exposure whatsoever. if the democrats and republicans were a corporation, they would be under anti-trust investigation before you could snap your fingers. They have monopolized american politics
ALL WELL SPOKEN MEN!!!:bigok:
I’d like good health care too, because even working for a decent company I still pay out the ass. If the government gave me health care, well, I’d still be paying out the ass.
So in summary, if you work hard you pay out the ass.
Wait until you’re working full time, lose almost a third of your check to taxes, and lose more for getting married (at least before the tax change), then you’ll become bitter like us old guys. 
And I would gladly waive my rights (i.e., priviledge) to Social Security if I could stop paying into it. I would much rather invest my own money than have the government do it.
Originally posted by Jeff95TA
Wait until you’re working full time, lose almost a third of your check to taxes, and lose more for getting married (at least before the tax change), then you’ll become bitter like us old guys.And I would gladly waive my rights (i.e., priviledge) to Social Security if I could stop paying into it. I would much rather invest my own money than have the government do it.
First of all I will agree that the tax structure of this country and this state is indeed unfair, and it doesn’t please me to lost a good chunk of my pay in the way of taxes.
However if you check the numbers 318 billion of our tax dollars went to paying the interest on the national debt last year. The same debt that ronald reagan created in the 80s and bush 1 furthured in the 90s and the same debt that clinton finally started to show a bit of control on towards the end of his term and that bush 2 has skyrocketed since.
Imagine the tax cut that could be in order if we didn’t have that 318 BILLION dollar expense. I think that would be pretty nice.
It would also be nice to be able to save the 6.2% that goes to social security and put it into a private fund but the problem is that after politicians used social security as their political piggy bank there isn’t enough in there right now to pay for the people that it pays now so we pay for the people that are getting social security now and not saving for our own future like it should be. So if you stop paying social security and save on your own like you want who pays for the retired people right now?
Originally posted by turbotalon91
night trap i think i still have that game
Night trap was a badass game
i actually paid attention in a few classes in college so what i say is not media biased:
- tax cuts are meant to stimulate the economy not give people more money. the idea behind a tax cut is that the people USE that money and invest it back into the stock market…problem is that bushs’ tax cut came at the wrong time and instead of spending people saved it. tax increases do not and never will stimulate the economy it causes people to save the money they have because they feel they’re being cheated. (economics NOT politics) taxes ARE necessary to pay for government spending NOT to improve the economy. but your theory of how they operate is backwards. the economy goes in cycles of demand vs supply. it will always have ups and it will always have downs, if people leave it alone it will continue like this forever, when you mess with it, that’s when shit starts happening you break the natural cycle. all tax cuts do is accelerate this cycle. if you dont’ believe me look through history, find a president that ENTERED office when the economy was on a downfall and then find me a president that was popular no matter what he did. we all know the economy was taking a recession during the end of clintons admin if gore would be in office right now people would be complaining about him too.
as for the war in iraq, was it justified? i don’t particulary think so…but at the same time you’re telling us not to base our opinion on the media you base your opinion on what someone said in a speech. if you do some research you’ll find that the iraqies have been looking for aid for years now from someone, they have one of the potential to be one of the largest economic powers based on oil reserves that this world has seen but they can’t under current leadership. i’m not talking about the few rebels that blow themselves up that you hear about in the news i’m talking about the country as a whole. if you dont’ belive me about this go take a look at cuba, we shunned them economically until castro either dies or leaves office, we have no econmic ties to them yet theyre building hotels on the sea coast in anticipation of becoming a tourist area when the sanctions are lifted.
- the issues that cantidates talk about are just to make them look good for their term, if you look up what the president actually has control of…it’s not what he’s talking about, presidency is a popularity vote that is held so that the nation has something to be proud of, he’s no more than the queen of england, everythign still has to go through the house, the senate, and the countries financial advisors.