troling you for months?? what the hell do you mean? i havent singled you out for shit travis. get off of your high, know it all horse and stop puffing out your chest. YOU started this, and your car makes 8XX whp. you heard im running pump gas…so you called me out bc you know that my car wont be making close to what yours does. your car made what, 804 on race fuel from the previous owner? get off my ass
Progresso is better than Campbells. You’re stupid. Rollcage. /typical Shiftdick post.
STOP MAKING FUN OF MY FRIEND MIKE!
LOL.
that being said, Mike, when are you building me a cage?
Yup, +1. Cages tube chassis are 1/2 my income here at times and this will be the first statement out of my mouth when I talk to a customer wanting a cage in their street car. Tube doesn’t move when your melon smashes into it. I’ve almost knocked myself clean out cold just swigning myself around welding one in before.
lots of blah blah blah in this thread. Not enough facts from people who actually build them… Makes for a funny read here. Probably why it’s in battlefield. /pjb :pop
Continue…
I have a rollbar because it looks cool.
There is 0% chance of my head ever contacting it.
That’s all I have to contribute. It gets me laid. FUCK IT.
to be honest, I never once thought about that.
about what?
Neither does the road. :lol
I see both sides of the argument (to a point). It’s entirely relative to the particular situation that comes up, but I don’t see how a neatly tucked cage can be that much of a hazard. Perhaps I’m missing something and that’s fine. Honestly, I’ve never worked on a cage other than my dad’s dirt oval cars.
Correct me if I’m wrong but cages are a non issue if you’re using a harness.
You’re wrong. Cages are a non issue with a harness and an up to date helmet.
Why would you need a helmet when you’re so strapped in you couldn’t hit your head if you wanted to?
Your head can always hit brah. I don’t care how tight my harness is, if I had a bar that fit under my hardtop running along next to me, my head would hit it. Wierd shit happens. Look at adam (revlimiter’s) blog from when sharka got rearended. He never thought his head would hit his rollbar but it did. :shrug:
look at this car, now imagine he had no helmet.
This is your brains, these are you brains on cages.
How many people wear there harness on the street tight enough? Or a proper 5 point?
Adam,
I’m only like 5’6", so if I run cage that is really tight to the body, it should be a bit safer, no?
You’re too short to worry about your head hitting the bar, your head doesn’t even come up above the back of your seat with your helmet on.
On the other hand, as far back as my seat needs to be for my big ass to squeeze into it, I can already lean my head on the b-pillar. So if I took a side impact on the street, you’ll know why I died people.
Harnesses are designed to stretch in order to decelerate your body in a wreck. Any bar within 6" of your head is fair game in terms of potential for hitting your head on it. When I would rarely drive my caged car on the street I would tighten my harness just as tight as I would on the track, I also had some dual density padding on the bars near my head that would provide an extra 3/4" of softer deceleration of my noggin in the event that my head did make contact. Just as a side note for anybody in this thread that already has a cage, pool noodles are not proper padding and will do zero to protect your body when it makes contact with the bars.
If you take that pillow you sit on to see over the steering wheel out of the car I don’t think you have to worry about your head hitting the cage
I’m not even sure what’s being argued about in this thread.
Give me a few weeks to show you what I am doing in my camaro. If you like it answer is when ever I flip the tig on and your car is here.
Like Adam said he qualifies more than anyone in her to comment. I am giving the man that. So we all, including me, should be listening to him.
For reference:
With that being said. And understanding how a harness works (stretches to dissapate like mentioned already too) and taking your physical size into consideration and THEN building the cage around that, I will give you 2 examples of a cage I, KK with what shift thinks has no knowledge on the subject based on real expierence, doesnt see being a form of roll over protection that could kill someone in the event of an impact without a helmet.
I give you a simple 4 point cage:
For some reason it doesn’t show the harness bar… but you get the idea. ALL of the tubing is behind the drivers seat (max 6"). So the vertical bar is 6" behind and tucked right up next to or even slightly behind the B pillar, and well enough above your head. The top is right up to the roof, approx 11" max away from your head at a diagonal line drawn from the back of your head. So if you get hit without a helmet and your head hits ANY of that tubing… your seat broke or the impact was hard enough that your fucked anyways, cage or no cage. Please explain in detail how I am wrong, or STFU.
Next I give you a simple 6 point cage:
ONLY 2 bars anywhere near the drivers head is the door bars. Bellow SHOULDER height. You would have to get hit in such a way that your head, neck and back leaned you forward and/or compressed you down and to the side somehow to hit your head on that bar. The body doesn’t bend that way very well, especially with a 4 point harness holding you to the seat. Again, I am very confidant your head isn’t hitting those/that bar either… and if it did again, say the cage wasn’t there, you would be smashing the window, door sill, etc anyways… again your pretty much fucked cage or no cage. Please explain in detail how I am wrong, or STFU.
So please pick this apart and shed some useful details, or things I might have overseen/though… since I am beyond a clown & just a useless piece of shit racing my gums.