Change you can count on.

man they should like go to jail for lying or somehting :lol

Wait, I was wrong…it isnt the Clinton Admin Part II

Now he has one from the Carter Admin. :crackup :rofl

word word and word

and your the authority.

Mind boggles… things are going to get better???

What exactly do you mean?

omg omg omg…yea you still have yet to make a valid point.

btw, i’m not for or against obama, just against idiots that blindly side with or against one political party and make reasonings like you do. holy fuck everyone that worked for clinton or carter has to be bad.

yup, america, wonder why everyone laughs at us and my main news source isn’t from within the borders…

Well Obama atleast has plans to do stuff. Bush kinda did whatever he felt like doing.
Hopefully atleast some of what Obama is promising happens like pulling the armed forces out of Iraq and stuff like that.

Party centric is so fucking gay.

I think they should completely do away with political parties. Never gonna happen but it would change alot of things and certainly make things interesting.

No more voting for somebody just because he’s from a certain party even though he’s a complete moron.

If people vote X because it mostly aligns with their views, that’s fine. But, it shouldn’t matter that they are X party. If your candidate is in Y party, vote for that candidate. It brings up another interesting concept, are you voting for party or candidate? To me, it’s purly candidates (Pres/VP).

I only vote for candidates. I cant see voting down the line.

Same except this year out of anger. :lol

Well his slogan was that of changing the way politics works and such. Seems to me appointing mostly members that have already served on presidential administrations(“the old way”) isnt very much change. Sorry, I’ll state the obvious from now on when you can’t understand it.

Historically Deomcrats want bigger gov. and higher tax. Republicans smaller gov. and lower taxes. Bush is sort of a mutant waste of space so he isn’t included. If someone doesn’t beleive in bigger gov. why would they EVER vote democrat since thats a core belief of the party?

The simple fact that every person has their own ideals/values and ranks them accordingly. One or more of these values might be more favorable in the other candidates. To respond to your question, just because they believe in smaller gov’t, doesn’t mean that other issues are less important. This goes back to a previous debate where you seemed to know the why a voter voted. :nono

Point in case, a very good friend of mine voted Republican several elections in a row. He voted Obama this time even though some of his ideals are still on the right-side.

you really expected him to hire staff that has no politicial experience? or maybe you don’t understand that just cause they have served under other presidential administrations doesn’t mean they are gonna act the same way under the current one. sorry i’m not an idiot. you on the other hand, i worry about. well not really, i don’t care cause i enjoy when people like you try to make political points, i just sit back and laugh.

did you know that originally, they did not want political parties in america. but the way it is set up just sets us up for a 2 party system. i wish we had a multi-party system, i also wish we had votes of no-confidence. would be so much better.

I didnt know that- I always thought there were 2 or 3 parties from 1776 on.

The clintons are the definition of politics as usual. What makes you think their opinions and methods would have changed from then to now? Unless I missed something, arent politicians the most stubborn pricks on the planet?

Ya know, I didn’t know that considering the people who wrote the founding documents were part of parties. Unless I’m wrong, which i dont think I am.

Wow

Well, I am FOR Obama. He’s my county’s President. I got his back, as long as he aint stabbing while I aint lookin. I do have HOPE.