Does Obama Lie? or is that a lie?

http://news.investors.com/article/615581/201206201901/obama-tells-stories-to-support-radical-agenda.htm

The Obama Record

The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he’s been caught lying about family racism.

In “Dreams from My Father,” his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather’s imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden “old man.”

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his “white rulers,” as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here’s a sampling:

Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, “fought in Patton’s army,” when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty “the day after Pearl Harbor,” when in fact he waited six months.
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Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father “fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government,” when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother’s health insurer refused “to pay for her treatment” for cancer while citing a “pre-existing condition,” when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.

Lie No. 5: Obama claimed he and a black high school friend named “Ray” were ostracized in Honolulu, when in fact the friend, Keith Kakugawa, was half-Japanese, and neither of them experienced discrimination.

Lie No. 6: Obama claimed the father of his Indonesian stepfather was killed by Dutch soldiers while fighting for Indonesian independence, when in fact the story turns out to be “a concocted myth in almost all respects,” Maraniss found.

Lie No. 7: Obama claimed his parents decided to marry in the excitement of the Selma civil-rights march of 1965 — and that he personally has “a claim on Selma” — when in fact they were married several years earlier.

they all lie cheat and steal to get elected and once they are its fuck everybody time

Every single president lies. Just about every politician lies.

They will say a thing on camera and then later come out and completely change their tune and claim it was never said or that it was misunderstood.

They will attack their opponent and his views even though they either share those views or have done that in the past themselves.

It is nothing more than a popularity contest for the people while the real player are the campaign donors.

Poor people vote, rich big business pay and donate. Gotta please both.

And Romney wants us to think he’s an average joe like one of us. Truth is regardless of how you spin it the next president will be another self conscious politician who only cares about how deep they can make their pockets.

Unless it’s Ron Paul.

He’s the only politician I have almost complete faith in actually helping this country out.

We agree once again.

However I believe even if he got elected, between the established crooked politicians who will refuse to lose their big business and outside influences support and media even he would be powerless to stop the machine or make any drastic changes. He is so extreme in fixing the country (which is needed) his own party barely supports him.

Fucking political threads on Shift :facepalm

I agree but realistically its either Romney or Obama.

All politicians lie and you don’t get to the top without making enemies along the way. In politics you’re not voting for the best candidate but rather the lesser of two evils.

I don’t think Obama necessarily lied more than any other President but his message of Hope & Change really resonated with people looking for something different. Unfortunately for him and all of us his polices were not only a spectacular failure but they left the country in worse shape than when he took office.

that guy has about as good of a chance at getting elected as Mickey Mouse

:rofl

Really? I had no idea. Thank you for your political insight, Paul.

Ron Paul has some good ideas for the country unfortunately, for me anyway, I thought his foreign policy views were terrible.

It looks like Rand Paul is being courted by Romney as the VP though so November should be interesting.

The thing with politics is that in mot cases, you’ll never find someone who fits the bill to exactly what you want. Ron Paul and I have several views on issues and government control that are similar, and then there are some things where my views will differ.

Obviously to most on here, I am passionate about gun rights, and Ron Paul has excellent views (in my opinion) to protect our 2nd Amendment rights, and in his book Freedom Under Siege, he argued that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to “place a check on government tyranny, not to merely grant hunting rights or allow self-defense.” He goes on to say that firearms bans only keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens, not dangerous criminals.

Good book. I’m actually reading it now.

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what lies between liars and truth tellers in the communities eye?

Trust.

What trumps trust, every time?

Proven action & results. (not debating how well obama is doing his job here, thats not my point)

If the biggest lier can produce results, there is absolutly no need for trust. Trust is just piece of mind really, used by someone to pass the baton to the next runner. That next runner could say “hell no, I am not going to finish this race when you hand off that baton”… but then keep running and cross the finish line. It was a blatent lie, but the results were undisputable.

What i am saying is people base their “trust” on stuff thats so far out in left field for elections and such its just retarded. I could careless if the dude has 10 kids with 5 women, could care less what they did 25 years ago talking about their realitives across the globe. WTF dose that have to do with the damn gas prices I pay every day? If the dude can produce results, that speak for themselves, then no fucks given about the truth/lies flying aroud in left field.

EVERYONE has baggage. When thousands of people are out there witch hunting for that junk, it will surface. The clear headed people can look past the bullshit and get down to business.

^Didn’t we all agree that you’d put cliff notes after each on of your posts?

hhahaha

comeone thats short winded!