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boosted sam - it wasnât dubbed over in english, it was whatever the hell language it was (i dunno which one) but it wasnât english.
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It should go without saying that the FBI & Pentagon are in extreme âcovermyassâ mode and wonât really be investigating this story at all. Bush has already decided no further photos will be released, Rumsfeld is desperately clamoring for recovery.
Desperate men do desperate things.
Now, back to this video.
BIG HUGE PROBLEMS with this video. And with the actual whereabouts of Nick Berg at all.
The reports say he was taken into custody by Iraqi police BECAUSE he had no valid ID on him and with a passport with an Isreali stamp on it and the story goes they thought he was a spy.
The FBI contacted Bergâs family early on to confirm his identity WHILE allegedly in Iraqi police custody, confirmed his identity - the FBI did - and then he was released from Iraqi police custody on April 6th.
On April 9th he was allegedly kidnapped by his assassins.
Big problem here is that he is wearing that US issued orange jumpsuit. He wasnât wearing a bright orange âHERE DUDE! HERE I AM! SHOOT AT ME! IâM A PONY!â orange jumpsuit when he was picked up by the Iraqi police. He left the hotel where he was in street clothes. Anyone who thinks differently is simply naive.
The Iraqi police did not take him PRISONER - they held him in order to find out who he was and what he was doing there with no ID - so they would not have made him change into PRISON GARBâŠlet alone United States orange prison jumpersâŠand the FBI HAD in fact told Iraqi police to hold Berg and FBI went there to get it cleared up.
In a span of 3 days between April 6 when Iraqi police released him*** and April 9th when he was kidnapped, he ended up somehow or another wearing a US issued orange jumpsuit given to PRISONERS OF WAR, such as exactly what prisoners at Guantanamo Bay prison camp wear.
He was not just released on the street. Upon clearing of his identity thru the FBI, the IP did not just go âokay, sorry, mybad, see ya!â and he walked out the door onto the street.
The FBI was already involved completely telling Iraqi police what to do about Berg in the first place, they knew EXACTLY where Berg was at all times, which includes post release and those 3 days âmissing time.â
He was released to the US government. And during all of this Bergâs family got confirmation their son was in Iraqi police custody AND later in the US custodyâŠwhich prompted their lawsuit against the US government to RELEASE him - because under the Constitution shredding USAPA his rights were violated up one side and down the other. The suit was an attempt to force the USG to release their son at allâŠso yes, he was obviously IN US custody at some point.
There is no other explanation for him to have been in that US issued orange jumpsuit AT ALL unless he had, at some point, been taken into US custody AS A PRISONER.
And chances are high that during that 3 day âmissing timeâ was when he was in US control. The US had a number of reasons for wanting Berg dead anywayâŠand it would send an effective message to Bergâs father who was suing over th USAPA and detainment at all.
NEXT UP
The assassin named as the one doing the beheading was reportedly already dead up to 2 weeks before the beheadding happened, and because all the assassins faces are concealed we donât know and never will know who was really hiding underneath them. Various persons have analized the video and come away with a unanimous conclusion that it was not the person accused because heâs dead, nor was he actually an Arab, due to the Russian accent and the botched Arabic dialect.
Also noted was that the assassinâs hands were really white and not dark skinned as one would find of those native born to the mid east countries.
Also noted was the assassin wore a large gold ring which is forbidden to followers of Islam.
Also noted was the fact the assassin gave his long winded speech for âforeverâ but was only reading off of 2 sheets of paper that he continually flipped over front to back several times during his little speech there. As in he spoke much longer than whatever was allegedly written down on the pagesâŠand still kept going back to the same page saying new stuff.
Also noted were the various accessories the hooded assassins wore, from the Israeli issued AK 47 to the pretty white sneakers.
Also noted was the discrepancy of the time stamp and upwards of a 10 hour lapse.
Also noted just today was a comparison that Berg sits in the VERY SAME sort of chair as was shown in a photo of the Abu Ghraib prison guards named in the torture photos - specifically the one chick Lindee whatsherface. Still think its BS? Take a look for yourselfâŠ
(photos linked in source article)
More and more, it comes clear that the denial of the US that weâd ever had him in custody, alongside Bushâs sudden refusal to release more photos so we can all âput it behind usâ (read: sweep this shit under the rug in a damn hurry)âŠthe US is once again LYING and whoever the masked assassin was, he was a white guy. Not Iraqi, Not Israeli, Not Arab, Not Al Qaeda, not anything elseâŠhe is a white guy.
Most disturbingly is the reality for anyone with even a shred of experience in forensics and human anatomy, is the fact Berg (or whoever it was) was already dead when he was beheaded. When the human body dies, the heart ceases pumping blood and it begins immediately to coagulate and the body undergoes a process of rigor. Once the body is dead, any cutting will NOT result in bloodshed.
The sooner after death the body is cut, the only bleeding that will happen at all is residual loose blood on the surface, UNLESS death happened longer than 10-12 hours previous, then NO BLOOD happens. The longer the body has been dead, the more decomposition has engaged, which coagulates and ultimately powders the blood and settles it to the lowest extremities making contact with a hard surface, also known as blanching.
The video is spliced and edited between the frame the assassin withdraws the knife, and the frame they knock Berg to the floor. Itâs clear, itâs undeniableâŠitâs a whole âscene changeâ and this means FRAMES ARE MISSING. You can even see a ten hour time difference in the clock!
When they knock him to the floor he is already dead. He falls stiff because heâs already undergoing the rigor effect. His eyes are closed, there is NO defense on his part whatsoever, even being bound, knowing he was going to die, he wouldâve been squirming, kicking, struggling, and no doubt hollering.
He does not do this. Itâs clear in the video that heâs just laying there awefully compliant when heâs not being held down by his captors, just going to lay there and let them cut off his head.
He wasnât compliant because it was futile and he accepted his fate. He was complaint because he was already dead, hence ZERO struggle of him whatsoever.
Then to the cutting. The human throat has a slew of arteries, veins, nerves, blood vessles, etc. in the throat and neck because this specific area is core connective matter between the brain and the spinal cord and rest of the body. Notably the jugular. The assassin began a slow, rather clumsy cutting of the head from the body and not a single drop of blood began to spray and hose them downâŠnor did a single srop of blood begin spewing out like a waterhose on full blast when the assassin moved to the front of the throat.
In real life with a live victim being beheaded, the instant that knife broke the skin into the jugular vein his entire upper body, face, neck, shoulders, chest, upper arms, the floor, the assassinâs hands, wouldâve been instantly sprayed with an abundance of blood.
When the assassin holds up the head, his hands are lily white and NOT covered in blood. The later frames showing the beheaded body shows not a single drop of blood around the neck and coller of the victim. There is no bloody pool expanding on the floor - the curves and shadows are some sort of fabric laid on the floor, it is NOT blood.
When the assassin holds up the head in presentation, not a single drop of blood is gushing from the open neck - only a small droplet of residual bloody tissue falling from the neck wound.
Nick Berg was already dead before he was decapited on camera, by a white person, and was likewise dressed in a US issued orange jumpsuit after being MIA for at least 3 days after having been confirmed in custody of the FBI.
The USG is lying that this is a ârevengeâ killing. They are lying that we never had him in custody - the orange jumpsuit itself proves clearly otherwise. The USG is refusing to release further photos and is desperately trying to sweep this under the rug.
Berg was without ID and in Iraq alone. He was not listed among the contractors designated to be there.
The accused assassin Zarqawi was murdered 2 weeks previous to the beheading of Nick Berg.
This entire story is a fraud, it was a deliberate killing and a deliberate later beheading for show to further Bushâs agenda.
source: http://www.pimp.id.au/berg/
here is a link to the berg video for those who hadnt seen it. i steered clear of hosting the file here, but since it has been linked at least 20 times in the posts, i will add the link here so that the people asking for it dont have to search through everything. you can go to http://www.ogrish.com to download the video or you can click the direct link here.
ok. by now just about everyone has heard about or viewed the video of the american nick berg being executed. here are some things that you maybe havent heard aboutâŠ
where are the records of bergs company?
nick berg had started his own company called prometheus methods tower services. when searches were conducted in his state to find this company, they came up empty. you are not required to file for a business i.d. but usually, you cannot exist without one. there is absolutely no record of his company, either through state records, online, or anywhere else. he also worked on the radio tower at the very prison in the center of the abuse scandal, however his company name can not be found on the list of approved u.s. contractors.
last year, the media ran national news stories about israeli spies infiltrating the u.s. phone companies. many people were arrested and charged with spying for israel, although israel officially doesnt spy on the u.sâŠ
http://www.totse.com/en/politics/foreign_mâŠies/168266.html
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2âŠ18/224826.shtml
in war-torn iraq, the phone systems were entirely hardlined. saddam required it. hardlined systems are the easiest to bug, and saddam loved bugs. these systems were heavily damaged during the war and needed repair. nick berg was in the country helping to set up radio and cell phone com towers, transmitters, etc. nick berg was also jewish and had recently been to israel. this leads to the next questionâŠ
was nick berg possibly an israeli spy?
bergs family claims that the u.s. military held him for 13 days, yet the military denies this, and claims that the iraqi police detained him. the iraqi police, however, deny holding berg as well. what is clear, is that at some point, iraqi police suspected that he was an israeli spy (his passport contained an israeli stamp, and is widely regarded as a no-no in iraq.) when he was questioned, he was found to have an anti-semetic book and a quran. this does not make sense. remember, he was jewish. was nick berg trying to understand the religion of islam and the hatred of jews at the same time? were these books required reading material? this leads to the next questionâŠ
was nick berg playing both sides, and caught in a double cross?
the f.b.i. questioned berg in iraq at some point, up to three times reportedly, also suspecting that he was up to no good. they asked berg if he knew how to make pipe bombs, or if he had ever been in iran. after questioning, they offered him a flight home and released him. he turned down the offer for a flight home, saying he thought it might be too dangerous traveling to the airport, but when asked how he planned to leave iraq, he said that he was going to travel by land to kuwait. this particular stretch of road is a dangerous one, even for iraqis. it is a haven for thugs and kidnappers. a westerner in jeans, t-shirt and ball cap wouldnt get too far. surely he would have known this?
nick bergs father, michael berg and nick bergs company name are on a âlistâ at free-republic since 2003 as being enemies to the occupation of iraq, yet nick berg was a âbush supporterâ. his father was not a supporter of the current administration, and has clearly made his position known on national news and radio broadcasts. he has stated that he blames the military for his sons death.
was there a deeper link between berg and 9/11 suspects?
nick berg had a connection with zacarias moussaoui, the only 9-11 suspect indicted by the the united states so far. nick berg let an individual on a bus use his email account and computer to send mail to various people, one of which was moussaoui, who then in turn, ended up with bergs email account password. strange. the f.b.i. thought so too, and questioned nick regarding his contacts. his name was known to the f.b.i. since as early as 2002.
finally the video itself leads to many questionsâŠ
the white chair?
funny that such a chair is so famous these days. you might remember this chair featured in some of the iraqi abuse photos at abu ghraib prison. sure there are a million of these patio chairs in iraq, but it is worth noting.
the yellow walls?
the chair in itself might not seem like much, but how about the yellow walls behind berg, the same yellow walls in the iraqi prison that the u.s. military is now using, the same one at the center of the abuse scandal. remember, nick also worked on a radio tower here, and was supposedly detained here at some point. which leads to my next questionâŠ
the orange prison uniform?
why is berg in a prison uniform? this is the same uniform the u.s. military sticks on prisoners in iraq as well as down at the bay. do the insurgents shop at the same store as the americans? same chairs, same uniform. whats next? same soldiers?
the couch potato combatants?
in every video i have ever seen such as this, i can honestly say i have never seen a fat terrorist, not a foot-soldier at least. all of the men behind nick berg look out of shape, overweight and in some cases, even white. one of them is wearing sneakers.
strange accents and trouble reading the words?
the man in the center was having trouble reading the papers, and was constantly flipping them around. many muslims have said that their accents arent proper either. they sound neither iraqi or jordanian. some news agencies are reporting hearing russian for a brief moment. others say possibly iranian.
dead man walking?
this brings up another question. the man in the center is reported to be abu musab al-zarqawi. the video itself was entitled âabu musab al-zarqawi slaughters an americanâ. why would he name the video after himself, and then wear a mask? another potential problem is that the military and iraqi militants claim he was killed months ago in a bombing raid by u.s. warplanes. he was supposed to have an artificial leg, but he doesnt seem too handicapped in the berg video. this man is supposedly responsible for the madrid train bombings as well as the plot to kill up to 80,000 people in jordan. under normal circumstances i am happy to see terrorists die, especially when it involves u.s. warplanes, but if this man is dead, that is big trouble for someone.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/05/âŠain604191.shtml
the man who cuts bergs throat is also wearing a gold ring on his right hand which no extremist would do. it is against the fundamentalists version of islam.
berg killed before the beheading?
finally, some are speculating that berg was already dead before his head was cut off. this may mor may not be true, no matter who did it. the tape is edited right when the beheading begins, and the timestamps are different, yet you do hear him screaming. a human head holds over a gallon of blood. when a heart is still pumping, the second someones throat was cut that severely, they would literally be spewing blood everywhere. we do not see this in the berg video. just a small amount of blood, on his shirt and the floor. the red carpet may hide some of this. either way, maybe the terrorists did kill him first, or maybe someone else did.
wag the dog?
the timing of this video release raises questions too. some reports even show that u.s. troops found his body on the 10th, yet the execution supposedly took place on the 11th. i support the united states, the troops and the president, but i do wonderâŠjust what the fuck is going on in iraq? whether it be mossad, c.i.a., f.b.i.
or just plain old insurgents, there is certainly more to the story than meets the eye.
well said.
but you know those with blind faith in the good ole U.S. will dismiss everything you said.
well said, nonetheless.
thats pretty much what alex mack wrote just longer and explained more