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Yeah, following your dreams and doing what you want is great, but don’t expect me to pay for your $100k education so you can make $30k a year.
What?
I don’t care about your stupid brother or how prestigious his job is… If he made a bad decision about his career path, the burden is on him to carry. And I don’t even think he made a bad decision. He can suck it up for 5 years and deal w/ the interest, because after 5 years he’s going to make HUGE money and he can pay it off ten-fold. It’s part of that career path. I do think becoming a doctor is a REAL degree.
I’m referring to people who get a “degree” in something they “love” without thinking of the long-term consequences.
I would LOVE to get a degree in sexxing up hot babes, but if it cost me 20K in student loans, I don’t think the burden is on the government to relieve me of anything because I made a poor financial decision to do what I love.
The same goes for something like an ART degree from pratt or something. You’re going to spend a ton to get a degree in a field that has VERY few job openings in a higher pay grade. It’s important to have some sort of REALISTIC long term plan.
I think your brother had a realistic long term plan and I think it will work out for him in the end. Most people I have spoken to about doctors lived like absolute scrubs for the first few years out of school.
I’d love to go back for a BS in Pornographic Studies, at the Peter North Institute of Nine Ropers. Can I get that covered?
LOLZ
Careers are generally like women. Fun, Easy, Well-paying.
Pick two or less.
:bigclap: HOLY FUCK THAT WAS FUNNY! GOOD SHIT!
Oh and I’m totally for this. It makes sense on so many levels. i mean if you maintained at least a 3.0 or some kind of incentive to get this bailout. it pisses me off that i cant get any financial aid because my parents make a combined $70,000 a year and are married? thats like lower middle class lol. they punish people for doing the right thing and its ridiculous. nice thread i love it
Lost is the fact that this will never happen because young people don’t vote. Old people elect our politicians and they don’t have student loans. Like so many other things (21 drinking age, social security and medicare being untouchable, etc) the politicans only give a shit about the people that vote for them.
Other than rare cases, like the Obama movement motivating young people to make their turnout slightly less abysmal and tipping the scales because no one accounts for them in normal elections, politicians couldn’t care less about those under 25.
and i will say i agree with this. i’m 21 and have had a job since i was 14. i’m taking my last class at community college (5 semesters, yeah i suck) and i already have $10000 in debt. next year at UB is just gonna be more and it’d be nice to get help that so many of my friends get. i’m at work bringing home <$200 a week working 30 hours and they get money for nothing. but all in all i guess it would be bad looking at the big picture lol/rant
making you pay for college is not punishment. shit isn’t free.
i think paying off every fucktards student loans would be punishment and, yes, i have outstanding student loans myself. of course i would love for them to magically disappear, but not like this. there are so many people who have loans with little or nothing to show for it.
no no i meant they punish me because my parents did the right thing. stayed married, work 40-50 hours, pay taxes blah blah they dont make enough to even help me with books but my friend gets paid $3000 plus free school to attend nccc… its stupid he has a job he just blows it on stupid shit like ipods and speakers and stuff. that was all i was saying. financial aid should be given based on grades
aaahhh my bad.
I’m fine with “paying for school”, so long as it is consistent across the board. I do not like the fact that eligibility to “aid” is based on parents income. Make it even across the board. If anyone wants an education, you must invest in it. Johnny Poor-family shouldn’t get a free ride, he should have access to the same loans I have to take out and will have to repay. My middle class parents are not millionaires who are paying my way through school, yet I received very little assistance.
And the upfront costs should be reduced. The costs of higher education have skyrocketed far faster than inflation. I believe the figure was something like 20 times as fast (I don’t feel like fact checking for the exact number right now).
Additionally, don’t get me started on the number of people that are unemployed because simply put, they suck. They took their 4 years at college as drunk-fest the whole time, did not learn, have little skill, little ability, and cannot fill out an application or create an effective resume and cover letter for shit.
agreed they should give aid to everyone or no one and base it on your grades after your first semester of college and not your parents income
Who needs college?
Thats only partially correct. Your parents are punishing you too.
Maybe they thought you would never get into school? j/k
On a serious note, if “low income” parents want to pay for their children’s education, its a decision that is made very early, and can require years sacrifice. If my household made 70K, i would not have to complain about public schools and could afford to provide an education for both of my kids. Its all relative to your standard of living, expectations and perspective.
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And therein lies this major disconnect amongst Gen Y (or w/e it is now), and reality… mainly thanks to the Boomers.
IMO, parents should pay for their children to attend college. Start saving early, and encourage your children to attend state schools(in NY, state schools are great!).
I am not very sympathetic about it. You owe it to your kids to provide them with the opportunities to succeed.
I hate the cop-out, when parents say “I paid my way through college, so my kids will too”. I especially hate it when the parents drive expensive cars and have tons of fancy shit. That $50k BMW could have put your kid through school, asshole.
I guess I am not as sympathetic to low-income parents as I should be, and I am sure I will catch flack for this. I can tell you right now though, I will 100% pay for 5 years of schooling at a state college for my children. I’ll do everything I can to make sure that they get a good education.
well my dad bought his 1st new vehicle ever 1994 silverado and still rocks that but picked up a 99 neon to save on gas. my mom bought a used explorer. i mean they deff dont live outside their means they just live comfortable and dont like puting things on credit. they save until they can put a huge chunk down or pay it off right away. they couldn’t afford to help me after morgage car loan household needs savings etc and $70k was being generous lasts fafsa i filled out was under that
Funny you should say that.
I’m a HUGE fan of the old way…apprenticeship/internships. That way you have Master craftsman teaching and helping others work up the ranks. Who better to teach a skillset? Why do you need gym class or other garbage courses they make you take when you are going to be doing a specific job? Develop the skills needed to perform the task and skip the fluff that helps the schools rake in the $.
As for the free education. It’s dumbed down and designed to make good workers not free thinkers. But that’s where parenting should come in I suppose…and that’s a whole different rant. 