:word: i know 4 people who have had 3 dwi’s and none of them have served any time. none of them lost their license for any longer than a year. but all paid for good lawyers, paid out the ass for fines, got a lengthy probation, went to rehab and counseling. so hes screwed, but with the right lawyer not totally screwed. shit my one buddy got caught driving the wrong way down the I-190 for his 3rd DWI and other than a whooping by the police he got off pretty easy.