Thanks for letting me down, I was expecting a Walter-esque rant and I have nothing but this to read above… :bsflag:
I’ve never seen a sport compact ever do what I’m planning on doing. If it works out, I may post some pics, or it can be seen at the track.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I need the OEM panel style filter.
Gee, a plexiglass air box perhaps?
If you are tired of being flamed, then post what you are talking about. I can’t stand people that feel some sort of need to keep their shit secret and want to whine about it when they get a hard time because of it.
If you would just fucking post it, people could probably give you other ideas how to make it work with something you could actually buy instead of some cob job bull shit ricetastic painted filter.
You know what I have never once heard? “Gee, this guy did such an amazing job building this motor/car, but it’s not even worth it because he didn’t match the color of his air filter to the rest of his car.”
Why don’t you get some nice blue vynl to cover your windshield, not only would it make your car more appealing to metros, but maybe you could even convince yourself that it’d be faster because the difference in friction between the glass that is pitted from years of driving and the fresh vynl you just put on there.
Seriously, I didn’t post before because it was too simple. I don’t care who you are, it’s fucking ricey to be this concerned about the fucking color of your air filter. So what? Suck it the fuck up. If you like it, then who gives a shit. If you like 15 ft tall wings then thats fine too, it’s your fucking car, but it’s also still gay ricey shit. You can’t argue everyones opinion. Doing something like this that has absolutely ZERO potential for any performance gain, and TONS of potential to cause you to acutally LOSE performance is by the very definition rice.
On top of that, you aren’t going to notice the miniscule differences between any style of intake you make. Guess what, the 1HP that you are going to get will be out weighed every time you have a fresh tank of gas, or it’s over 70 degrees, or it’s humid, or the wind is blowing in your face.
Ugh.
:gtfo:
Oh, and because I’m getting soft in my old age, there is actually a company that makes blue OEM panel filters, I’m sure you can figure it out, I’ll give you a hint, the word blue is in the name.
What I was doing to the filter wasn’t as important as my original question, all I wanted to know is if dying the filter would risk damaging the filter media, or my engine.
That’s it.
Your hint is useless.
ACCEL makes them.
“Kool Blue” is merely the name of that particular product line.
But thank you for your efforts.
Its not useless you dumb fucking shit. Why don’t you learn to fucking read. Is blue in the name of the fucking air filter or not? You even said it in your post you goddamn retard. Are all kids as worthless and stupid as you today or what? Yes, dying the filter is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard of. Did you even think of it? Or were you just concerned with matching it to your particular panties that you were going to wear that day?
I mean fucking seriously, think about it for a second. Are you that fucking cheap that you wouldn’t buy something already made how you want it? They make airfilters in every color imaginable. You even said its not going in an airbox, so therefor with a about 3/10s of an ounce of effort you could have found one that would have been close to the size you want, and work your “air box” or whatever the fuck you are using it for around the size you ended up with.
happy now? :mamoru:
Aren’t we hostile?
Relax… it’s not my fault you can’t get laid, you prick.
so lets hear the plans. I highly doubt they will be stolen by anyone on this site.
Actually, I got laid 2 last night, and once again this morning. And the I don’t have people constantly calling my girlfriend ugly either :mamoru:
That’s what I asked for, apparently it’s too top secret and his only defense of his genius is to try and say I’m not getting any :gay:
If the filter itself gets clogged with dye therefore making it unporous (doubt thtas a word) then you aren’t doing anything to help the engine breathe. I know thats been said about 20 times but thats your real problem when trying to do this mod. The entire purpose of a “cold air intake” is to let the engine breathe better, cooler air more efficiently. By clogging up he filter you do risk sucking in the dried particles if they were to become loose. If it is a cotton or paper-type filter I agree with zerodaze, you could probably use normal run of the mill black dye. Just apply it sparingly.
Since you asked nicely, and I have more respect for you than some other pricks on here…
The throttle body on the 2.4 is located in the front, with the header on the back.
The TB is in the middle, offset to the left side by about 4"
I plan to use my factory airbox, with no lid (only the lip to hold the filter on)
Mounted into a fiberglass hood, funneled directly into the TB.
The filter will be located mainly on the part of the hood that has the steepest slope, which is about a 30-45* angle, opposed to laying completely horizontal.
On the back of the hood, there will be either a heat extractor setup, or WRX style scoop to cool the engine bay.
decent idea, but you don’t want a wet filter either. I see the reasoning behind the colored filter, it would look better, but I think a mesh cover over the filter, painted blue, would be much better
How you plan on keeping water out? Making your car a track-only car?
What about covering the “indentation” in the hood surface with blue Lexan, or plexi? If you leave the forward edge of it opened, but with a drain slot, light shining through the lex/plex will “color” your filter for you, reduce the chance of water ingestion, and still allow cool air to be drawn in.
I was going to avoid mesh so It has less restriction, although it wouldn’t be much at all… but I wanted the best flow possible… thus the reason why I asked if dye would lower the flow properties.
As far as water, the hood will only weigh 5-15lbs, so I plan on using it ONLY for racing.
It won’t be hard to swap hoods once a week.
Until I can come up with a cover, that will cover the filter, and allow air in, it’ll only be used on the track.
When the hood is done, I’m going to just leave it primer black. If I decide to leave the hood on all summer, and have a decent cover idea that won’t let ANY water in, then I’ll have it painted, and will use it only for the summer (The car is a year round daily driver)
I just need to get my hands on a stock hood to make the mold from and experiment with.
Marks Auto, Gregs, and 2060 have nothing. (Although 2060 can order me a new one for like $100 or so.)
By indentation, you mean where the filter sits, correct?
If so, I’ve considered this idea, and thought about a small lip up front, but I want to be 110% sure, that no water can get in, so this will take a lot of planning and thinking, since I’m not a super genius as far as cars and design goes.
Wouldn’t this have been easier to post in post #2?
So you are going to swap your hood to go to the track? Why not just run no filter then? And if its only for the track, then why do you care about the color? I’m assuming you’ll have DRs or something similar mounted on some probably ugly but light weight rims with a fairly stripped interior, so I’m not seeing how the color became the gating item in this project?
That said, if your filter is directly against the front of the hood as you describe, it will be nearly impossible to create something to keep the rain out that won’t keep the air out too. “Ram air” systems in factory cars use various louvers and bends in the systems to make sure that there is a place for water to escape, and with the filter right against the surface of the hood, you won’t have space for that.
That said, is the gain you are going to get from this, worth the effort and cost? It seems to me like the time and money could be spent somewhere else that would yield more, if you were super lucky, I wouldn’t expect more than a few HP max (as in less than 5).
Remember that you need to keep standing water out, not just water at speed. Every time you stop, or the car sits in the parking lot in the rain, water will puddle, and if its got a way into the filter you are going to be fubar-d. Even if you don’t hydrolock the engine it’ll still be bad, and ruin your filter quickly. Although you could just argue it was your poor mans water injection :lol: