I kind of figured he was alive when captured and that bullet to the head came later and at close range.
Again… Violence: Gets shit done. None of this trial BS that drags on for months while he gets to act all defiant on the stand. Drag him out of the bed of a pickup truck and execute him.
Let’s see who replaces him. Why am I doubting that it will be a democracy?
The US should not be involved in any conflict outside of our own borders. We need to take care of our own people, and our own economy. It makes me sick the money that we give to all these countries when people here are in the streets with no job and no health care.
Helsinki warning
CIA and the Helsinki warning
On 5 December 1988 (16 days prior to the attack), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issued a security bulletin saying that on that day a man with an Arabic accent had telephoned the U.S. Embassy in Helsinki, Finland, and had told them that a Pan Am flight from Frankfurt to the United States would be blown up within the next two weeks by someone associated with the Abu Nidal Organization. He said a Finnish woman would carry the bomb on board as an unwitting courier.[39]
The anonymous warning was taken seriously by the U.S. government. The State Department cabled the bulletin to dozens of embassies. The FAA sent it to all U.S. carriers, including Pan Am, which had charged each of the passengers a $5 security surcharge, promising a “program that will screen passengers, employees, airport facilities, baggage and aircraft with unrelenting thoroughness”;[40] the security team in Frankfurt found the warning hidden under a pile of papers on a desk the day after the bombing.[7][page needed] One of the Frankfurt security screeners, whose job was to spot explosive devices under X-ray, told ABC News that she had first learned what Semtex (a plastic explosive) was during her ABC interview 11 months after the bombing.[41]
On 13 December, the warning was posted on bulletin boards in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and eventually distributed to the entire American community there, including journalists and businessmen. As a result, a number of people allegedly booked on carriers other than Pan Am, leaving empty seats on PA103 that were later sold cheaply in “bucket shops”.[citation needed]
PLO warning
Just days before the sabotage of the aircraft, security forces in a number of European countries, including Britain, were put on alert after a warning from the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) that extremists might launch terrorist attacks to undermine the then ongoing dialogue between the United States and the PLO.[42]
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1%ers!!! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
OK, I’m curious… What would be a conflict that would demand our attention and intervention?
WWII
Ok so barring Germany from marching into Poland, there is nothing else in the world which we should stand up for? What about when we intervened against genocide in the Balkans? What if tomorrow North Korea stormed across the border into S. Korea or started firing missiles at Japan?
What makes the Iraqi Kurds or the people in Darfur or the Bosnians different from the Jews? There are and have been many other “Hitlers” in the world besides Adolph himself. Do we let them run free? Take them all out? Pick and choose? I don’t have the answer, do you?
It is almost always fueled by American interest. Oil…
I feel like Hitler was much more of a threat to the world as a whole than anyone else who has come along. North Korea has nukes supposedly, so that makes them more of a serious threat, but Hitler had plans to take over the world - including blueprints of an invasion of the mainland US.
I feel like we shouldn’t intervene in things that don’t really involve us, like if another Bosnia happened for example, because we’re struggling here at home now and we have our own problems to deal with. Like the economy and how Reaganomics has failed us (It’s true, and I’m not in the mood to debate it). However, if we’re legitimately threatened like we were in WWII, we have to intervene.
Let’s go to war with ourselves. It’s the only logical answer.
Inception…bwahhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmpppp.
We didn’t enter WWII to defend the jews. Hitler was trying to, with great success, conquer the entire world. At one point in time he controlled everything in red:
Don’t you think that was just a tiny bit more of a threat to our own interests than what’s going in in Sudan?
I’m not saying we should mind other people’s shit a little less because it’s not a good thing to help, but because it doesn’t work. We’ve been in Afghanistan for 10 years and it still sucks there, 8 years in Iraq and that’s still pretty fucked up. Tunisia, Egypt, Libya. All well on their way to rebuilding in a matter of months. The first two without any bloodshed to speak of.
Not to mention the US wasn’t ready to jump into Hilter’s holocaust until his Jap buddies decided to bomb the shit out of Pearl Harbor. This attitude of needing to jump into every world genocide is a far more recent historical development.
It sounds a little cold, but we need to go back to not giving a shit when genocide and oppression doesn’t directly affect us. Unfortunately that’s a lot harder to do than it sounds because most of these unstable regions also happen to have that most precious commodity… OIL. Until we can find a way to run the 1st world without it unrest in these regions we shouldn’t care about is our problem.
The french helped us with our revolution… just saying.
x2 Fry.
Yeah because we were the middle east of the 1700’s: An underdeveloped region with a fuck load of natural resources that it would pay off to be allied with. :tup:
exactly
Who is Gadhafi?
France was also looking to screw Britain over any way they possibly could. That was their main reason for helping.
Im well aware of the reasons for our entry into WWII. It is far more complex then Hitler wanting to rule the world, but we will leave it at that for the sake of simplicity… Im using the example because people in our time always point to the holocaust and other Nazi crimes as a reason why WWII was a “good” war.
Point being: where is the moral “line”?
Side note: Hitler would have been defeated by the USSR had we not intervened anyway, with the exception of lend-lease helping the allies while they got on their feet, US involvement in WWII is a moot point. The Eastern Front was the decisive theatre with North Africa-Sicily-France-Pacific being the side show. And fuck france in the ass, we should give them back to Germany.