Flight 3407 Tragedy Thread *****

[ShiftDead]

@Blue Eyed Devil

Word, I didn’t want to get graphic but since you brought it up, that fire raged for a loooooong time.

There was still smoke this morning.

Human flesh needs about 1400 degrees of constant exposure to ignite. It is hard to say how hot the jet fuel was burning seeing as Burning hydrocarbons burn at about 1000 degrees F. But as soon as the jet fuel mixes with anything (paper, metal, concrete, anything) it changes the make up of the mass of what is burning, therefore the 1000 degree temp is misleading and inaccurate. Plus if the fire is in a confined space (fuselage), all bets are off.

I wanna say that there is some sort of protection system for the fuselage from the fire but I am no expert. I do not see why there would be NO remains to identify anyone.

[ILC]

@Blue Eyed Devil

I still have heard nothing about birds which surprises me after the last crash was caused by birds. I know it is all speculation at this point but not even a mention.

Birds almost never come into play. They are a big threat… but a critical bird strike rarely happens.

[evilsrt]

This airplane that crashed is a Bombardier Q-400 Dash 8.
Totally different airplane than the CRJ. CRJ= Canadair Regional Jet

[MOBOOST4U]

@Blue Eyed Devil

I still have heard nothing about birds which surprises me after the last crash was caused by birds. I know it is all speculation at this point but not even a mention.

Hahahahah… this is why I love you!!!

[9c1ny]

@Blue Eyed Devil

I still have heard nothing about birds which surprises me after the last crash was caused by birds. I know it is all speculation at this point but not even a mention.

I hope it wasnt the common tern

[Nikuk]

@ShiftDead

There was still smoke this morning.

most newsites are saying the fire wasn’t completely extinguished until late this morning. roughly a 12 hour burn

[zwarbyt]

Birds don’t do shit to turbo props either…

[Joe]

I was saying that if they were going to be making an order from Bombardier, they were a lot better off buying the comparable CRJ instead of the shitty turboprops. If I’m Bombardier, I seriously scale back Dash 8 sales to try to push the CRJ.
Regardless, I hate flying turboprop. Regional jet too, for that matter, but slightly less so. Now if only Buffalo was non-shitty enough to support a full slate of Boeing and Airbus jetliners.

[justa4door]

and there is also no birds out at 10PM

[Blue_Eyed_Devil]

^Is it passed their bedtime? I have seen Canada Geese fly at night.

@MOBOOST4U

Hahahahah… this is why I love you!!!

Well what the hell, they have mentioned other possible causes.(?)

[j_espo1]

please save the jokes.

too soon.

more then a couple nyspeeders have DIRECT relations to some of the lost.

Thanks

[MOBOOST4U]

@ILC

Birds almost never come into play. They are a big threat… but a critical bird strike rarely happens.

@zwarbyt

Birds don’t do shit to turbo props either…

My god, I dont think he was serious.

But with how the media appears to be handling this and how recent the other landing occurred, it is funny you haven’t heard anything from any source lol.

A bird would probably just get hacked the shit out of anyways, in a propeller. Unless it hit the windshield and the wipers couldn’t clear the blood and guts :picard:

[evilsrt]

@Joe

I was saying that if they were going to be making an order from Bombardier, they were a lot better off buying the comparable CRJ instead of the shitty turboprops.

I agree, but when Continental brought these aircraft in to service oil was $140.

[Geoff]

@j_espo1

at least tourism in Clarence will be up for years to come. Maybe we can have some sort of event like this happen in downtown Buffalo?

I know you’re just kidding, but what a piece of shit thing to say.

[bracketracer]

@j_espo1

at least…

Seriously? Delete this shit.

[camarojoe]

@j_espo1

at least tourism in Clarence will be up for years to come. Maybe we can have some sort of event like this happen in downtown Buffalo?

Are you fucking serious?

[bracketracer]

@Anonymity

this is not on the behalf of my company:

We have lost a “X” number of great employees. I feel that I am a better person b/c I worked long, long hours with some of them. One of the people on the team that passed could have passed for a saint with the number of people he helped.

We r having an “all hands meeting” with in the hour, and if I allowed to speak in more detail of what we know, I will.

Today, has made me stronger.

I’m really sorry for this, D.

[zwarbyt]

he is a piece of shit

[eMKay]

@Joe

I was saying that if they were going to be making an order from Bombardier, they were a lot better off buying the comparable CRJ instead of the shitty turboprops. If I’m Bombardier, I seriously scale back Dash 8 sales to try to push the CRJ.
Regardless, I hate flying turboprop. Regional jet too, for that matter, but slightly less so. Now if only Buffalo was non-shitty enough to support a full slate of Boeing and Airbus jetliners.

They are more efficient, I thought this was discussed already.

Oh yeah, they are cheaper too.

[JayS]

@n20junkie

It has nothing to do with the Baro altitude. They were cleared to 2,300 MSL which is a valid altitude because it is base off of the CURRENT altimeter setting of buffalo. 2,300 feet is the glide slope interecept altitude and the final approach fix for the ILS to runway 23.

Variations in baro pressure play no part.

:tup: I was pretty sure that was the case but didn’t want to post it until I verified it since I stopped pursuing a professional airline career long ago.