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you got the point but missed it. GM did not walk away.

I am calling BS, all those issues are caused by lack of maintenance and beating on the cars, not design faults… just because your dad doesn’t take car of his cars doesn’t mean that the car is unreliable. Especially about the M3 tranny, they don’t just blow.

bullshit

the 328i had electrical problems over and over again, it got to the point where he was tired of taking it to a dealership and bought a battery powered radio and kept it in the passenger seat :lol: dont see how thats poor maintenance :gotme:

The M3’s tranny let go at 43k miles, i dont know why… my dad has never raced in his life, doesnt beat on his car aside from the occasional “spirited driving”, but nothing like the hell we put our cars through… he bought it because he liked the wheels.

The X5’s bullshit started at 600 miles when we were on the way to Ohio for me to look at school’s so dont give me that its due to poor maintenance crap.

His new car however is very nice and hasnt had a single issue in the year he has had it, knock on wood.

He doesnt keep these cars very long and takes them to the dealership for everything, he can afford to… i can assure you lack of maintenance is not the issue.

:word: Its a fucking BMW, no way it can ever have any issues. That shit only happens with dumbestics. Not the Holy BMW! :roflpicard:

The longer we pretend we’re on a level playing field, the sooner we are doomed…

http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=7929

The Head of Honda Motor Co. has warned that his company could leave Japan if the Japanese government refuses to take measures to halt the strengthening of the yen:

[QUOTE]“If the government is saying, ‘We don’t care about the export industry’, then that’s fine — we’ll act accordingly,” Chief Executive Takeo Fukui told a small group of reporters in an interview on Friday.
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“If we go beyond (100 yen), we would simply have to transfer more production overseas, cut more temporary workers and even start laying off permanent jobs,” he said.

“Beyond that we could switch to importing more cars into Japan, bring research and development facilities overseas, and in an extreme scenario move our headquarters offshore. It would cause nothing short of a hollowing out of Japanese industry.”
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Hmm… seems like it’s a tacit acknowledgement of “Japan, Inc.” where the government supports an export-minded economy based on the undervaluement of the Yen.

Then again, maybe we should give Honda some more tax breaks to intice it to move here and become a new “domestic”.

Sooo tru. The Japanese have been manipulating their currency for 30 years+. Japan’s Gov’t has worked with the auto industry in that country for years to make it what it is today. Because Japan actually realizes how important that industry is to their country/economy.

Then would Honda be paying tariffs to sell its cars in Japan, increasing their cost there by about a third. That sould go well for builing their Japanese market share. I don’t understand why we don’t do the same to forien cars sold here. Then maybe there would be a level playing field.

This is horrifying.

forgive my ignorance, but how does a strong yen hurt honda/ what the hell does all that mean?

Most of Honda’s sales are overseas. A strong Yen means that it takes more Dollars to buy Yen, therefore any profits made overseas are relatively less when brought back to Japan. Conversely, anything made in Japan and sold overseas would be either a) more expensive in the export market, or b) less profitable when the money’s brought back home.

Therefore, Japan’s historically pursued a weak-Yen policy, trying to make its goods cheaper abroad (and imports relatively more expensive), which would benefit an export-oriented economy. China does it more blatantly (pegging the Yuan to the Dollar specifically) which is part of the reason why Chinese goods are so cheap.

A small example:

Today’s parity is where 1 US$ = roughly 8 Chinese Yuan. Under this, if an average car part costs 80 Yuan in China, then it equals $10 here in the US.

Devalue the Yuan to 1$=12 Yuan, then that same part now costs $6.67. Hence the unintended benefit. If you charge $6.67, then you undercut others on price. If you charge $10, then you get a 50% increase in profit (from 80 to 120 Yuan).