ohhh if Forza 2 is anything like Forza 1 or yet better, you will kill anyone who touches it when you buy it, thats the same reason i didn’t want to buy Forza, but im soooo happy the guy at Ardvarks told me to and i believed him…you actually feel the car through your controller, even the car sound shifting gears, on low and high rpm, take a maxed out skyline, on a track drive it role from first and floor it let it bounce of the redline, and change gears next gear shift early,now watch the reply,lol the car, sounds like how it does in real life…:R