Fuck Duquesne U

Good for him, i hope he sues the fuck outta them for acting like pussy. No body wants to stand up for anything anymore thats why this country is a mess. Duquesne showed me they have no balls.

Duquesne U. student punished for remarks about gays
Thursday, October 27, 2005

AP

A Duquesne University sophomore said he will risk being expelled for expressing his view that homosexuality is “subhuman” rather than write a 10-page essay the university has called for.

Ryan Miner, 19, of Hagerstown, Md., was sanctioned by the university for posting his view on an online forum not related to the university.

He opposed an effort by other students to form a Gay-Straight Alliance group, an issue still being debated by the Catholic university.

“I believe as a student that my First Amendment rights in the Constitution were subverted and attacked,” said Miner, who is Catholic.

After his comments appeared online, some students complained to the school. After a hearing, the office of judicial affairs found Miner guilty of violating the University Code which prohibits harassment or discrimination based on, among other groups, sexual orientation. The paper was assigned as punishment, which Miner said he will appeal.

If he doesn’t like their rules, he should go to another University.

:gives:

if it’s an online forum in no way related to the university, i think he was within his rights. unless he was specifically naming individuals, i don’t see a problem.

however, i’d really like to see his comments in their original iteration to develop an opinion.

if he didnt say anything about duq U or any student in particular i see no grounds. but if he said duq U or joe schmoe then i think this is correct. but dont make him write a paper. just boot him. and give money back. he is speaking his mind which is free. and its not on duq webspace. i think he has every right unless mentioned duq

“cum here little alter boys :greddy: we don’t want any of our little secrets getting out…”
<insert kolar halloween pic here>

here’s a better story on it:

Face ‘Booked’
By Laura Steff
The Duquesne Duke
The recent craze sweeping over Duquesne University’s campus has been Facebook. Posting pictures, writing on friend’s walls and joining groups are just some of Facebook’s perks. However, many students don’t realize what they post on Facebook can get them into trouble with Judicial Affairs.

According to Susan Monahan, director of Judicial Affairs, any charges made about information found on Facebook were brought to her attention by students who found the information and were offended by it. There isn’t anyone at Judicial Affairs who sits in front of a computer all day searching students’ profiles on Facebook. After a student files charges, it is her job to determine whether or not the information actually violates Duquesne University’s Code of Student Rights, Responsibilities and Conduct.

“I’m not looking for that stuff, but if it is brought to my attention I have to adjudicate it,” Monahan said.

That was just the case for Ryan Miner, a sophomore political science and pre-law major. According to Miner, he created an Anti Gay-Straight Alliance group on Facebook and described homosexuals as “subhuman” in a post within the group. Four students brought the charges to the attention of Judicial Affairs, Miner said.

“Students should speak up and against the things that they feel are immoral or against their religion,” Miner said. “Whatever I say impacts me as an individual but because I accessed Facebook from the University I am found responsible for the comment I made.”

According to Miner, he was sent two letters from Judicial Affairs informing him that what he posted on Facebook violated Article IV Section C Number 6: Harassment or discrimination based on race, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, national origin or citizenship status, age, disability or veterans status.

Miner was both excited and shocked when he received the letters.
“It was an exhilarating feeling to know that I am the voice of many people who feel the same way,” he said. “I was surprised because I was not aware that the First Amendment was limited – that [the University] is able to restrict my right, especially on Facebook, which is a separate entity.”
Even though Duquesne does not sponsor Facebook, the University still has jurisdiction over what students post.

“Duquesne deals with any judicial violation that occurs whether it is on Facebook or off-campus,” Monahan said. “If a student brings something to my attention that proves a violation of the code, I have no choice other than to adjudicate it.”

Miner’s hearing was held on Oct. 13, 2005. According to him, he submitted an opening statement, was asked questions by the complainants and the hearing board and then submitted a final statement.

“I argued that as a Catholic University, there should not be this gay agenda,” Miner said. “There should not be a promotion of homosexuality.”

According to Miner, Judicial Affairs sanctioned him to write a ten page objective expository of the viewpoints both for and against homosexuality. He also had to take down the post, although the group still exists.

“I am going to appeal the sanctions because I don’t agree with the consequences,” Miner said. “I will not write this paper.”

According to Monahan, the next step for Miner is to appeal the case to another board not familiar with the case. That board will review the file and cassette tape of the original hearing,

Although Miner is passionate about his views and opinions, he emphasizes that he doesn’t wish to promote hate.

“I don’t discriminate against homosexuals and I don’t hate them,” he said. “I just don’t approve of the actions, especially at a Catholic university.”

Although students should be careful about what they are writing on Facebook, they should also be careful when choosing the picture they are going to use for their profile. Many underage students decide to use pictures of them drinking.
“If someone brought in a picture from Facebook of a student drinking and they were underage I would have to adjudicate it after making sure they were underage,” Monahan said.

Students should be careful about what they are writing or posting on Facebook. Even though you don’t think anything is wrong with it, that doesn’t mean someone else won’t.

“What I wrote, I feel was acceptable,” Miner said. “I was surprised when I was sanctioned because I thought what I said wasn’t irrational.”
Monahan agreed, “You never know who will bring Facebook to our attention.”

facebook is a cult, im guilty.

i am going to have to side with the University on this one… he definitely broke a rule and needs to be dealt with. Every University has the same rule, if a student gets arrested in CA during the summer months and it gets back to the school they will have to go through the school judicial board as well. just the way it goes

exactly. he is responsible for knowing the student code and abiding by it. Also, and I don’t think they said this specifically, but if he used the campus computing network to post this stuff, he might be in violation of another rule.

I think whatever faggot complained about the post needs to be beat with a breaker bar and told to stop being such a pussy.

err… your parenting skills must be great with that mentality! Lets hope one of your kids does not turn out gay.

I have no problems with people being gay. I do have a problem with people getting all pissy over stupid shit. There is no reason to turn someone in and get him kicked out of school for posting his opinion on a website. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. If you do read it, realize that not everyone thinks like you do and leave it at that.

fwiw - I would rather my kid be gay than be a druggie.

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One would think that a “Catholic School”, which states as there contuary belief “…homesexuality is prohibited…” that this would be an issue, people need to understand now adays you do NOT have any rights if you think about, every right,law, amendment, and or bill is designed against you the citizen. Here’s a go ahead pic up the bill of rights and see if you can understand with out asking a lwayer to explain it, if you can’t I would say there is a problem!

WTF are you talking about?

perhaps you need to look at it from the other persons views… what if it was an old truck hating club, or a g body hating club. You might think, well hey this person wants to be a dick an start shit… I might as well be a dick in return and get him in trouble

heres my view on this

i grew up in a catholic based school and family for 17 years and i was always taught that “gayism” is NOT tolerated in the eye of God. The process of making babies is and limited to marrage andthe combination between a man and woman. Not a man/man or woman/woman. By actually imposing his views he was actually following his religion and faith. Fore Duquesne U to take offense in this shows that they are not a catholic/christian school they present themselves to be. If it was wrong for Ryan to impose his views on a non affiliated website why arnt gays aloud to marry?

This is where Seperation of God from church and state becomes very very unclear. Yet in school you arnt suppose to refer to God the pledge has been under attack for saying “one nation under God”. What is actually the line. But on our money it says In God we trust? I thought God was suppose to be seperate from church and state. Why would ryan be thrown in "court"if chruch and state are suppose to be seperate. His right amendment one and it deals with Religion.

Its racial when a person calls a Homosexual person gay, fag, ect but they can have their pride fests but when a straight person actually wants to be proud to be straight and tries to do the same thing how does that differ? Or when a Black person calls us cracker :rofl: or whatnot its alright for us to accept it. All these orginations are really regulating and disregarding the freedom of speech.

Thanks for the read

there are plenty of “trucks are gay” posts/threads floating around. I would respond to the post to create a little bit of drama(all in good fun of course) but that’s about it.

isn’t pittspeed a g-body hating club? as it applies to this example i would not give two fucks if you liked my car or not, i wouldn’t snitch someone out over it. If your offended by someones remarks about ____(race, sex, cars etc…) then the problem is in yourself. People are gonna think what they think and you can’t change it for the most part. If some gay person hasn’t learned to take stuff with a grain of salt by now they are in for a world of hurt. For the same reasons they can have a straight-gay alliance they should be allowed to have an anti-gay movement… But It always when the group is opposite of the minority they are being “hateful”.