its not only GWB’s fault. everyone likes to place blame. thats what astounds me… in the grand scheme of things the number of lives lost in this war is MINISCULE. look at WW1, WW2, VIETNAM, KOREA (korea was labeled a military action not technically a war), look at the civil and revolutionary war… the number of lives lost there was STAGGERING. as heartless as this may sound its a form of natural selection. if there were no wars the worlds population would be such that there would be no wilderness, there wouldnt be forrests or mountains to go see and “escape” to. there would be no farm land… it would be a world of one massive city. ethnic cleansing on a grandiose scale. whether any of you agreed with it or not we needed this war. quite honestly we need a bigger one. one of epic proportions (somewhere over mexico to stop the border jumpers would be nice)
how the fuck did we have a surplus if there was still debt… explain that to me? that makes absolutely no sense in the least… the DEBT slows down due to the democrats RAISING TAXES and applying our tax dollars to it. i would rather keep the money in my pocket and decide what i wanna spend it on than be overly taxed to reduce the rate at which the government spends my hard earned dollar.
The difference is we are losing this one, spending BILLIONS, and lies/propaganda was used to get us into it.
Let’s take your financial situation. Hypothetically of course.
You owe $15K in credit card debt and make $300 a week. Each week you spend $250 so you have surplus of $50 each week allowing your credit card debt to be reduced by $50.
Also, you shouldn’t be saying much about Gov’t spending/taxes given your fanboism towards this Administration that has used many blank checks.
we won vietnam? we won korea?.. just as much was spent for those wars, if not more in the grand scheme of things fighting communism as we are spending now in the fight against terrorism.
the thing is… the national debt did not stop at 15k for any presidential term… it grows 15k$ by the second almost and has for decades. to me its like pissing on a wild fire… yeah ur doing something to try and put it out but the efforts are futile
We won Vietnam? We aren’t fighting terrorism. The people that we are after are in the other Country. We are in Iraq for all the wrong reasons. It’s criminal what we did/dping.
The $15K was just an example to explain how the surplus was reducing the national debt unlike this Administration who has no boundaries when it comes to Gov’t spending
no… we DIDNT win vietnam… we didnt win korea… we are fighting for democracy and to end tyrannical oppression in iraq. the SAME shit we did with the communists and musolini, hitler, stalin, hirohito, ayatollah khomeni, etc… hussein was just another in the LONG LIST of world threats that the U.S. has fought against acting as the worlds police force. it has turned into a political action now because if we just drop everything and say “yeah were done here fuck you, see ya” we’d be looked at like the bad guys for going in there and fucking up a free meal so to speak. we were ASKED to go over there by the iraqi people (not the original government regime) to help end the slaughter of millions of defenseless citizens
Pretty sure Hitler, Musolini, Hirihito, and to some extent Stalin were trying to take over much of the world. Sure Sadam was a douche and was hurting his people and Democracy, but after the Kuiat (sp?) war he was not really a world threat. Our current administration decided to go ahead and start a war on information that was both under analyzed and in some cases totally false. Now we are paying for it. We cannot leave Iraq without the whole region collapsing, which could cause a world threat. There is a reason hardly no one backed us when we decided to go into Iraq a second time. It wasn’t the right thing to do at the time.
so france, britain, and canada didnt back us?.. they are all major world players who ALSO have troops in iraq/afghanistan… :idiots hussein HAD weapons of mass distruction… you know HOW i know this… THE U.S. GOVERNMENT GAVE THEM TO HIM during the iran contra affair…
who spoon fed you all the propaganda YOU are spewing?.. basically everything you are saying is that its GWB’s fault… well uhh lets see… CONGRESS has the power to override his decisions… and last i checked congress was comprised of MOSTLY DEMOCRATS…im not saying GWB is the best president ever… far from. what i AM saying is that you cannot place the entire blame of this presidential term on one man alone. blame the ENTIRE SYSTEM for failing…
you guys are arguing pointless semantics.
morals work for individuals, not nations.
with nations it’s the strong that do what they want and the week that get to spread the buttcheeks.
right now america is the one that’s strong, and like it or not, people at the helm of the nation want it to stay that way.
war on terrorism is the same shit as cold war, beat those that have something of value/potentially threatening into submission.
How is America strong right now? Have you seen the huge decrease in the value of the dollar recently? How about our economic situation? What are we getting that is valuable from Iraq?
my friend, you have no idea what real corruption is like.
corruption is when cops pull you over to extort you when the feel like it.
corruption is when people in the politics openly and directly own most of the business in the country, and don’t bother keeping it legal.
corruption is when you can’t do anything without calling favors and paying kickbacks.
you have no idea how good you have it in this country.
Congress was GOP dominated not Democrat. Not sure where you got that info from.
Propaganda from me? I am speaking facts. We went to Iraq and found no WMD even though it was the crutch used by the GWB Administration to justify the invasion. GWB and his Admin used the emotion of 9/11, WMD bullshit, and propoganda to trigger people into that war. We had no right nor any justification to attack a country that did not harm us.
There’s no blame on one man but SOMEONE must be accountable. With that said, GWB, Cheney, and the other retards are to blame for this big fuck up. Those clowns couldn’t even get oil while over there. :lol
We don’t? The ability for a Gov’t to take away civil liberties and bring an entire nation into a 7 year long war with no signs of ending sounds like corruption to me.