OMG of the hundreds of thousands of wells that have been drilled in western PA, every once in a while an accident happens. Let’s see what the fallout of this one was:
“The DEP’s Dan Spadoni said no one was injured and there are no homes within a mile of the well. The extent of damage to the environment was still being assessed, but no waterways were believed to have been contaminated.”
No injuries. no contamination. Some water and sand got spilled on the ground. Where’s the big fucking deal?
Last i checked water and sand was part of the earth ?
no way man. All of this environmental outrage is such a fucking joke. They are trying to blame the problems with the water in the mon on drilling now, when there’s concrete evidence that it’s due to acid mine drainage.
Micheal STFU!
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ok
Man i’m i fagging up my thread,I’m a fag. This is an important topic for Western Pennsylvanians. You should all be grateful that you have a recognized industry expert on the site to help keep you informed.
I call bs on pewter editing darkstar’s post. there is grammar in it…
Money is much more important than any possible risk that may and can happen. Thats the way the world works. Nuclear power plants blow up, power plants producing co2 and “greenhouse” gases influence global warming and depletion of ozone, drill rigs break and dump millions of gallons of oil, coal mines drain acid into water ways, marcellus shale drilling can contamidate water ways as well fucking everything up. Nothing we can do about it. We are all fucked in the end if and when something happens but my god we made alot of money.
We’ve only been drilling gas wells for 120 years. there’s only hundreds of thousands of them that have been drilled. I can see why you are afraid of this new practice. Plus, I mean, you’re ALWAYS hearing about gas wells polluting ground water.
if you guys really want the facts…
IF it wasnt an issue why is the EPA spending millions to conduct studies on the potential effects this could have?? They use TONS of water in this process and that water has to be trucked back to a site to clean up and thats an expensive process in itself.
Whats more bullshit is that the people involved in this want to bypass regulation
But to its critics, the shale is the opposite: a catastrophe of opportunity. They point to the alleged dangers of fracing, which then-Vice President Dick Cheney managed to get exempted from the federal Safe Drinking Water Act, thus stripping the Environmental Protection Agency of the ability to regulate it. (U.S. Sen. Bob Casey Jr., D-Pennsylvania, has proposed legislation that would remove this exemption.)
YOu mean to tell me a process that could effect our drinking water can be exempt from protection??? If you support that fuck you. The driving factor is making money and thats great because if there is as much gas down there as they say there is, this could really boost our economy in the region and overall since we can be less dependent on others. The risk however needs to be accessed.
Nobody knows for sure what can happen with this… and no they havent been drilling marcellus in this manner for 120 years, this was a recent thing. Especially in our regiion. They dont know what effects this could have. There have always been cases of people getting sick from stuff like this. Just internet search for it… accidents have happened and it only takes one major fuck up to mess up everything.
Darkstar, the professional manner in which you conducted yourself in this thread really convinced me that drilling the Marcellus Shale is the right thing to do. You really represent your company well. Maybe they can run commercials on KDKA with you giving dialogue like you did here in this thread- I’m sure it would have same convincing effect on everyone else that it did on me!
I also appreciate the professional manner… it gave me a more broad insight. My issue is still that your propaganda and the propaganda links you supply are all benefiting from the drilling… big $$$$. It’s easy to buy in to the hype from an employee/owner perspective when you can benefit greatly from it. Corporate kool-aide. I’m sure most working for BP could cite all the benefits of drilling oil in the gulf, and cite statistics before the rig went down that what happened “couldn’t ever happen”. History shows in many endevours that corporate greed will outweigh truth and ethics in the long run. Whether this will be one of those times, remains to be seen. I don’t doubt your company or especially you are in it for good reasons. I do doubt that every other company doing this is. There is too much money at the end of the rainbow for someone to NOT corrupt the system and get away with what they can in order to maximize profits.
The sad thing is that this falls on easy prey. There aren’t many people throughout the region who would turn their head to the kind of money they can make from, in their minds, doing nothing but signing the papers.
Oil City,Pa was one the nations leading producer of oil. Started by Rockerfeller standard oil . Over time other regions found out they had oil and the industrial revolution occurred and oil was more easily transported by ships / railroad by other countries,.
This will happen also with marchelous shale. Get on bandwagon before it’s too late and other areas are more profitable.
The “Cheney Loophole” is a federal law. The EPA in Pennsylvania requires pre and post drilling water testing for anyone that has a water source within 1,000 of a well. If something goes wrong, it will be known immediately and documented and the gas company will be forced to correct the situation by whatever means necessary. And no, it would not take one mistake to Yes, people do know what effects this could have. There have been thousands of them drilled in Pennsylvania already. Tens of thousands down in the Barnett Shale. Accidents have happened. In the ONE case in which water was actually contaminated. It only affected 14 houses.
You think I’m trying to run a PR campaign on Pittspeed? 
I’m trying to give you people an insider’s knowledge as to what this stuff is really about and a bunch of Google warriors are posting links trying to argue with me and accusing me of being too biased to give you all a fair assessment of what it going to be the biggest economic rush in the history of the planet.
If my “professional manner” is offending you, you’re more than welcome to cast me off as a loon. I thought we were all friends here and could speak freely minus any spin. :dunno:
So we’re back to “the big evil oil companies are evil and as such, must be up to something nefarious”?
You think that the BP accident in the gulf is because BP as a company just didn’t give a fuck? Do you have any idea how much they spend in liability reduction? TONS. Why? Because if something like this happens, it could cost them their company… and with BP, it nearly did. If their stock had slid a bit more it was almost certain that they would have been swallowed up by some other company. And now they are on the hook for $20 billion. CEO got shitcanned.
But I agree, these big corps only care about one thing… Money. There needs to be strict regulations, and the regulations are already pretty strict. When people aren’t cutting corners, bad accidents are VERY rare. If people play by the rules, we’re not going to have a problem. DEP has hired a TON of new employees to ensure this is going to happen.
Are there risks? Yes. Are there concerns? Yes. Can this be done safely enough to be worth the risks? Absolutely. Especially when considering our only other option is coal, which we already know totally ruins the environment.
Nuclear is the new age. Once we figure out how to get rid of the waste out to space, we will be set 
Wat?
Surely a well educated individual such as yourself has heard of Clean Coal Technology?
http://www.cleancoaltechnologiesinc.com/
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/powersystems/cleancoal/
Don’t U be dissin’ coal now…Consol is one of our company’s best customers…and they help sponsor the Pens…