Originally posted by Cutty
rwd is not needed? why aren’t ferrari’s, lambos, dragsters, indy’s and etc. FWD?
once again i was referring to stock montes and shit you brought up… not race cars.
sure they can make more power with a RWD platform, more room! Stock montes are ok but its about the same performance wise as my 85 brick SS. Anytime the engine isn’t in sideways with a transaxel you are gonna have more options for performance. Why no LS1, LC2, BB fwd cars? can’t do it! no room. buick had to scrap the LC2 cause there was no more platform to use it in. Sure he 3800 series is the same block size but they still never matched that performance even with the super on it.
300 ft/lbs of tourque?? is that all? my crappy 307 is close to that. How about upwards of 510 ft lbs in my GS!!!
its easier to push than to pull dumbass’ 
no way is your 307 making 300 tq
302>307:D
225hp 300tq a 302 87-92 rustang stock w/ 3,1xx pounds
Originally posted by Cutty
300 ft/lbs of tourque?? is that all? my crappy 307 is close to that. How about upwards of 510 ft lbs in my GS!!!
1.8l you’ll get gas probably 3 times before i ever remember to look at my gauge 
btw i was just bustin your balls… i really don’t know anything about GM… i figure the less i know about american cars, the longer my car will stay running… 
Originally posted by turbovw18
1.8l you’ll get gas probably 3 times before i ever remember to look at my gauge
:bsflag:
but in that 307 carb. yeah 3 times is the charm
dropping LS1 into a grand prix and calling it a GTO… gheyness.
If your gonna do something, do it right. I dont know how the fuck those designers looked at that car and didnt think it looked too much like a GP. :doh:
well doesn’t the austraila people think. the GP looks like the holden hahahahaa
Originally posted by Darkstar
dropping LS1 into a grand prix and calling it a GTO… gheyness.If your gonna do something, do it right. I dont know how the fuck those designers looked at that car and didnt think it looked too much like a GP. :doh:
Originally posted by 1320
drive a FWD car with 300+ ft/lbs of torque… and then say that again.
isnt the problem with frtdrive is the weak halfshalfs not being able to hold up
to the power
Originally posted by Cutty
sure they can make more power with a RWD platform, more room! Stock montes are ok but its about the same performance wise as my 85 brick SS. Anytime the engine isn’t in sideways with a transaxel you are gonna have more options for performance. Why no LS1, LC2, BB fwd cars? can’t do it! no room. buick had to scrap the LC2 cause there was no more platform to use it in. Sure he 3800 series is the same block size but they still never matched that performance even with the super on it.300 ft/lbs of tourque?? is that all? my crappy 307 is close to that. How about upwards of 510 ft lbs in my GS!!!
i didnt know that 307s had that much tq. i think mine only had 140hp and 245 tq this was in a regal
now getting torque out of a 4cyl. is priceless by the time you make alot of
torque out of a 4 cyl. just think how much you could of made with more cyl
not saying it isnt possible. but i see alot of hp out of these cars and hardly
and torque.
and as far as the gto it kinda looks like a deranged stang
Originally posted by ohsoquik02
now getting torque out of a 4cyl. is priceless by the time you make alot of
torque out of a 4 cyl. just think how much you could of made with more cyl
not saying it isnt possible. but i see alot of hp out of these cars and hardly
and torque.
my car makes more tq than hp…
and its making over 300 of both. :0
Originally posted by Darkstar
my car makes more tq than hp…and its making over 300 of both. :0
you have a turbo dont ya, that would be the reason for yours. im saying
n/a
anyone can turbo anything[yes yours is turbo from factory and is respected]
but where is your torque curve? with larger disp. motors the torque is lower
in the power band. when smaller motors make torque its alot higher in the
band.
like cuttys car probaby has all that torque around 2500 rpms
yours is probably at 5000 rpm or so
- Horsepower: 195 @ 6000rpm
- Torque: 203 @ 5000rpm
stock talon
Originally posted by Darkstar
my car makes more tq than hp…and its making over 300 of both. :0
proof??
Originally posted by turbotalon91
* Horsepower: 195 @ 6000rpm
- Torque: 203 @ 5000rpm
stock talon
like i said around 5000 that must suck!!!
i think i have that amount of torque a little above idle
Originally posted by turbotalon91
* Horsepower: 195 @ 6000rpm
- Torque: 203 @ 5000rpm
stock talon
1.8t - stock
horse: 180 @ 5500
torque 185 @ 1950
and i’m chipped pushing damn near 250 ft-lbs… you can feel it at 2k like no other
Originally posted by 2kaltima
I just read the car and driver article on the new gto. 14.0 in the 1/4 .88 on the skidpad. It sucks that gm finally gets a good idea then kills it by building a pos.I’m sure the aftermarket will be huge, but gm still fucked up a nice idea from the factory.
I’m not sure what magazine I was looking at tonite but I saw 13.6 @105 :dunno:
Originally posted by turbovw18
the origin of my comment was about stock montes and shit that cutty was talking about and how he said they would make a more powerful car with rwd.i was just saying that fwd cars can make good power… and my bud’s gti has 300 ft lbs all he has on me is the turboback exhaust sitting in my living room… are we talking crank or wheel? 277 wheel… pretty close to 300 crank. <— ricer i know… but my car has torque bish
i was referring to the lack of traction with FWD torque monsters… as you know when the driver hammers the gas, the rear end dips and transfers weight off of the front wheels. When you have a FWD with tons of torque you spin forever. I saw captain chaos’ built motor turbo civic this weeknd at the track…he had street tires on and pretty much blew off the tires past the 330’ mark.
And dont even get me started on FWD torque steer, i HATE that shit. :mad:
Originally posted by 1320
And dont even get me started on FWD torque steer, i HATE that shit. :mad:
have you even driven a fwd v8 now that is some serious torque steer!!!