Any and every venue has the potential to be unsafe. Whether it’s autox or track, if you can’t afford to write the car off completely, don’t take it out.
I hate to bust you up here, since I mostly agree. But that statement doesn’t seem to fit the mantra of the safety first AutoX squad.
If you’ve always been interested in competing, but can’t afford to buy a separate race car, Solo may be the sport for you. The risk of hurting yourself or your car is much lower than most other motorsports (indeed, much lower than driving to and from the event),
I think the whole point is to NOT buy another car?
The majority of autocrosses it’s true that you’re more likely to wreck your car driving to the event than at the event. Batavia however is not a normal autocross. If you’re going to push your car as hard as you would in a big empty parking lot with nothing to hit, just don’t go to Batavia.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a novice damage a car autocrossing at a normal autocross. If you’re start to spin and give up the run the courses are designed to give you plenty of room to slide to a stop. If you start to spin and play hero trying to save it you’re quickly drive out of that safety zone and then when you fail to save it no amount of course design is going to help you.
fact of the matter is you’re still going relatively low speed, you’re likely not going to be physically injured and most likely not going to cause massive damage to the car… still possible, just unlikely.
i barely tapped the tire wall at the top of the turnaround… 0 damage, not even a skuff…
jannygirl was the one who stuffed were WRX into the tirewall at the top… did a little damage not tooo much…
i wouldnt run my m3 there… tooo many places to loose it
Ah that was it. I just remembered a few times a car sitting in that corner and everything being stopped while it was cleaned up
Stephen stuffed it too - needed a new bumper I think. I almost lost it in the S coming down when driving Andy’s civic - shifting to third was a bad idea there…
It’s not any more dangerous than RIT…
true, the crowd is behind a better fence at bimp.
I’ll be at the first BIMP event with the E30 to test and tune for dunnville and have some fun.
Could your remark be any MORE tacky? Oh wait, forgot who I was addressing… :roflpicard:
again, I ask, isn’t that the WHOLE POINT of AutoX? :banghead:
Sure, the point is to NOT buy another car, but shit happens. Autocross is pretty damned safe, it’s a great place to learn control of the car. But an event is only as safe as the participants. If the participant decides to be an idiot and drives 14/10ths, then it’s no longer a safe event, no matter what the precautions.
I think the whole discussion is silly, really. Don’t feel safe someplace, don’t run there. If you make the decision to run, and fuck up your car, oh well.
Go to your track days then. Guess what though, pushing 10/10th there you’re far more likely to wreck your car than an autocross at Batavia simply due to the speeds involved. There are plenty of turns at batavia where you can push it as hard as you want and still have room to run off. There are only 2 where I’ve seen someone go off and hit something. The potential is there coming at the grand stands but I’ve never seen someone get that far off.
Nobody drives 10/10ths on the track, if you think you are, you probably have plenty left (or you are at 11/10ths and about to smack something). Even “racing” same thing, you have to learn to conserve tires/brakes/engine/fuel etc, even F1 they aren’t out doing Qualy laps every damn time around are they?
I wouldn’t worry about SPECTATOR safety at BIMP so much as it just being a poor choice of venue for CAR safety shrug YMMV, as I said above, “go have fun, its not a death trap, I just don’t like it.”
I am in for Batavia “International” Motor sports Park if I do not destroy my car at the Glen earlier in the week.
There is a great Irish pub in town if anyone is up for it after the event.
yes, this is a subject change…
drinking is a subject I can always agree on :grouphug:
+2
yeah man, if you remember correctly…you actually did end up losing it in the back section and somehow managed to keep the car on the track during your spinout. 
As for hitting the walls, I believe jan hit the wall on the embankment after the straight in her wrx.
I won’t make it because I need a few parts. Cam, cam follower, fuel pump and cam drive housing (Thanks to a cam follower blowing up at the Glen)
It was pretty fun, although I prefer running with WNYSCCA because the classing and the run, work, run, work… setup is better than working the course for a whole hour at time.
My gas pedal broke and stuck down full throttle at the bottom at the sharp 90 left before the uphill straight. But it was good to get out, test the car out before Dunnville. Need more fender clearance for my 9.5’s on all four corners.
There was a Blue Noble m400 there, first run he went all four into the grass and he was done for the day
yeah… I had a ton of fun there… the gearing made BIMP super fun even if I didn’t run one of the better times. my tires sucks, I need an alignment, the car had way too much oversteer.
You’re just bitter because I got you by a half a second
My times sucked, but it was a lot of fun. I was just starting to figure the car out again, and I ran out of trials. Looking forward to the Autodrome this weekend. Lots of time to figure the car out.