[quote=“Joe,post:3,topic:28323"”]
if you can’t beat 'em, i suppose you have to join 'em? 
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:word:
So it’s an ugly silver version of the 8800 with Verizon BS loaded onto it. You still won’t be able to buy an unlocked / unbranded one 
And 8300 (although still ugly) > 8800 / 8830