http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1950
mine is lame out of the box
the analog outputs dont work. awsome product :rolleyes:
oh, and the software supplied doesnt work with it, you need to go download the right software from their website. theres a company thats on the ball.
the instructions say right in there to go to the sit to update first
our analog outputs work fine :shrug:
on the other hand, i quickly learned that a/f w/o rpm logging is pointless
read the thread i linked.
yours works now. if/when it doenst you will know why.
if the analog outputs fail ONCE i WILL make sure that its returned for a full refund
one of out an-outs will be used for a digital read out and one will be used to attempt to pacify the obd2 rear o2 sensor
failure is not acceptable
I went with this one.
http://www.wmsracing.com/o2/index.htm
Works the best with my standalone, and is tiny compared to that LM-1 suitcase.
that lm1 “suitcase” isnt part of the lc1 unit … the lc1 looks like this and easily fits into spare space under the dash
i love how the wms site doesnt mention that the innovate kits dont have the dash gauge option, lol
I know we are talking about the LC-1.
So its $350 for the LM-1, then another $229 for the dash mount gauge.
$600 with shipping. :rolljerk:
The LC-1 is $400 and is dash mountable. Thats comparable, but were not available when I bought mine, and apparently they are pieces of shit.
Too each their own.
yea, the apparent “pos” factor realy ruins the value lol
i dont need any display, thats my issue. i use it for tuning, and i log with the software (map trace > *). if there is another compact no display just analog out controller out there POST A LINK.
maybe they will upgrade these… as per that thread and a few others, this is a known issue, and its just 1 chip.
if you dont need a display, then why not get an LM-1?
That’s the one I got, thanks to your research and Xanders suggestion. It’s nice and tiny and fits perfectly in a small cubby hole below my stereo, almost looks like it belongs there. It’s a nice little unit.
How do you know I have a “little unit”? :gay2:
have you checked out the zeitronix zt-2? http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm
279 w/o the display.
Ive know a bunch of ppl with these…zero problems…they’ve been up and running for 4 months now. :tup:
Just a bad batch…sorry to hear 
i looked at it before, but just for a sec.
now that i look at the site, thats a pretty nice piece. it logs rpm with out and like 5 other inputs out of the box for under 300.
I seriously considered that unit as well. The only thing i did not like was the readouts on the display. Too small and the a/f changes so fast thats its difficult to read. Since you dont want a display, this may be your ticket.
1 input for 199 = 199/input
6 inputs for 300 = 50/input
if tom had had the extra money, we’d have a ziet setup in the eclipse
the day after tom got the lc1, one of the zeit’s came up on that other site for 200 used … ugh … i was pissed that it came a day late