I find it difficult to hold the Palestinians to fault for this, since they were made refugees and the second holiest city in their religion was stripped to them and given to foreigners.
Creating Israel was just about the worst possible move, when it was done. Palestine won’t accept any solution that doesn’t give them control of Jerusalem. Israel won’t even split the city. They need to create an independent Israel, an independent Palestine, and a free, independent Jerusalem run by elected officials and preserved by the U.N. It’s the only solution I can see.
Until then, it’s just going to be a matter of Palestine striking because they’re refugees from their own land, Israel striking back because they’re losing a few civilians. Repeat ad nauseum.
nonsense… you guys are getting too far away from the simple fact that when you fire rockets into somebody’s backyard you might get a beatdown coming your way.
I’m sorry, but I have to totally agree with Jay on this. It is war. I’ve had enough of this pansy “OMG WERE GONNA HURT PEOPLE!!! WAHHH” bullshit that’s been going on in the middle east since the 90’s. You attack us, were going to attack you, it’s war. It sucks, and there is NOTHING nice about it. But that’s the reality of war. So Kudo’s to Israel for not taking bullshit, and actually realizing that sometimes…shit’s gotta hit the fan.
Wanna hide in a group of civilians and shoot at us? Fine, were gonna blow that whole mass of shit to pieces. Wanna try it again? Fine, we’ll keep doing it, and effectively RUIN your strategy of “fighting”.
So I guess it has nothing to do with the policies of Israel for the past 60 years.
Why don’t they just carpet bomb the fucking region then. Kill them all. They are never going to achieve there goals for security until they recognize that they are just as much the problem if not the most of it.
Seriously. People in the U.S. act as if Arab = Evil and Israel is some kind of City on the Hill that we must defend. It’s an artificial state that was created to satisfy guilt after World War II. We displaced people from their homes, disenfranchised them, and made them subject to a people whose religion and culture they disliked.
And we’re surprised when those same people fight for their homeland.
I wonder how often Jerusalem as an international city comes up in peace negotiations. It’s really the only solution.
Rupert Murdoch is not jewish and he owns like everything…
There are very few Palestinians in US (or in general)… but I guess ex. Sen. Sununu or be considered of that descent. I think Sen. Shaheen that replaced him might be of Lebanese descent.
Rupert Murdoch’s Jewish origins: a matter of controversy
A well placed correspondent with connections to the newspaper world (who has asked to remain anonymous) reports to us:
"I shall quote exactly what Candour [a rightwing British journal edited by A K Chesterton] said in its June 1984 issue (vol. XXXV, no. 6): BIOGRAPHICAL details of [Rupert] Murdoch’s past are sketchy and often contradictory. One reads that his grandfather was an impoverished Presbyterian minister who migrated to Australia from England, that his father was a low-paid reporter for a British newspaper in Australia, and yet, young Rupert divided his time between his family’s suburban home near Melbourne and the family’s sheep ranch in the country. He was educated first at the fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England. "Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch [see below] attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town. For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew…
And that, as I am sure you know, makes him a Jew according to the law of the Talmud, and indeed according to the present laws of Israel. Spotlight [a rightwing Washington weekly published by Willis Carto] in fact examined Murdoch in considerable depth in no fewer than three issues, 30th January and 6th and 13th February [1984]. My friend Ivor Benson whom I regarded as a very judicious observer and commentator, reckoned, along with Spotlight, that his meteoric ascent was completely artificial, and that he was a front for far more powerful super-rich subversives, Michel Fribourg, Armand Hammer and Edgar Bronfman, “all of them part of a super-rich ‘Zionist Mafia’”, to quote Benson, who added: “By comparison with these three, Murdoch is just an ambitious midget who has been given the job of drawing all the public attention away from those who make the real decisions.” (Benson’s Behind the News, March 1984)
Could well be. Certainly I can confirm that at least part of his meteoric ascent was artificial. I remember my brother-in-law [a former editor of The Times] telling me, at the time of Murdoch’s acquisition of The Times, that it was a strange business. Murdoch was by no means the highest bidder.
For my part, I myself have always had good personal motives to take a favourable view of Murdoch, because my brother-in-law was easily his favourite editor of The Times, and, when my brother-in-law died (in office), Murdoch treated my sister completely fairly, from a financial point of view, without making the slightest difficulty. But, despite that reason for some prejudice in his favour, I have always been forced to the judgement that he has been a force for unspeakable evil.
His was the “breakthrough” which made the tabloids genuinely pornographic.
In my opinion at least, his policy with The Times completed its collapse from its position as the most respected newspaper in the world.
And his republicanism makes me sick – it is not for the purpose of creating a better world, but quite obviously purely destructive. And I could go on.
PS: QUITE recently, a Times correspondent actually resigned because he was not allowed to report properly what was going on in Israel, or even to use accurate words to describe facts which were undisputed. He stated: “Murdoch’s executives were so scared of irritating him that, when I pulled off a little scoop by tracking, interviewing and photographing the unit in the Israeli army which killed Mohammed al-Durrah, the 12-year-old boy whose death was captured on film and became the iconic image of the conflict, I was asked to file the piece ‘without mentioning the dead kid’. After that conversation, I was left wordless, so I quit.” Unusually courageous for a modern journalist.
but yeah your probably right, very few palestinian people :picard:
video one is: George Galloway (born 16 August 1954 in Dundee) is a British politician, author and talkshow host noted for his socialist views, confrontational style, and rhetorical skill.
Video 3 is by “Napoleonjackbootie” who apparently is noone and sites zero sources.
Even if I assume the video is true and FOX, Paramount, universal were started by Jews, there is zero consequence. There is no hidden jewish penises flashed in the movies that I watch.
plus,
tell me how many companies were started by Italians.
I think they’re the ones controlling everything. I mean shit, I’m eating italian food for weeks on end over here. I’m sure they put something in it.
its easy to take in peoples opinions and then tag them with labels like “extremist” or “racist” or “socialist” ect ect
thats a tatic that is used to keep most people from speaking out and dimishing the credability of those who do
and your opinions make you biased as well
so whats your story?
Are you Jewish yourself?
you say “I’m eating italian food for weeks on end over here” where is “over here”?
and I’m sure there are alot of companies owned by Italians, however they are not companies that shape public opinion or dissiminate “news” to the masses nor do the Italians invade other peoples land and kill innocent civilians
on a side note humor me and tell me your thoughts on this-
BIOGRAPHICAL details of [Rupert] Murdoch’s past are sketchy and often contradictory. One reads that his grandfather was an impoverished Presbyterian minister who migrated to Australia from England, that his father was a low-paid reporter for a British newspaper in Australia, and yet, young Rupert divided his time between his family’s suburban home near Melbourne and the family’s sheep ranch in the country. He was educated first at the fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England. "Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch [see below] attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town. For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew…
