I have met a number of people who took the class and now “teach” the class with no clue or read world experience.
You can teach people audit/compliance stuff everything beyond that takes actual skill which isn’t something you learn at a class at ECC…I know they don’t teach Exploitation(code writing, understanding how/why it works), metasploit, CANVAS, CoreImpact, real network understanding CCNA level and above, or anything useful.
I don’t see any classes listed about client side attacks, social engineering, physical security…which are all major real world threats…
I’m sure they teach security by popping a unpatched Windows 2000 box :eek:
srsly? windows 2000?
srsly? programing in VB? No perl, ruby, C, basic shell scripting?
CURRICULUM
First Semester
DA 107 Introduction to Information
Systems Security (4 cr)
DA 150 Programming Visual Basic (4 cr)
DA 202 Legal, Ethical Regulatory Framework
of Security (3 cr)
DA 215 Windows 200 Server (4 cr)
Second Semester
DA 200 Computer and Network Security
(DA 107 pre-requisite) (4 cr)
DA 201 Operations and Database Security
(DA 107 pre-requisite) (4 cr)
DA 203 ISS internship (optional) (2 cr)
DA 215 Windows 2000 Server (4 cr)
DA Elective TBD (4 cr)
Related Course Objectives
a. Application packages for steganography
b. Firewall packages
c. Anti-virus packages
• Assess hacker challenges, malicious break-ins and insider
threats.
• Analyze the security issues that are specific to database
systems.
• Identify and secure web exposures.
• Observe TCP/IP packet streams to understand zone based
security.
Degree: Certificate
Program Competencies
Achieve entry-level working knowledge of popularmicrocomputer
application packages.
And while im on the topic of clueless people…The CTO of ShatterIT spoke at a conference the other day on digital forensics. I have never seen so many people walk out of a talk before. Tons of bad/outdated information and a bad presentation
I understand what you are saying but I do like the class and labs. I know I am not going to be a “security” guru when I complete the program next semester. I just took it because it looked interesting and I am not paying to do it.
In the end, I don’t care how many people have tons of certificates, it demonstrates you paid money, took the class, and did hw. For example, taking one Microsoft test, makes you a Certified Microsoft Professional
O ok, Again, I know what you are saying but the problem is, who is going to be the one to tell them?? They aren’t going to listen to the students. The organizations and companies need to tell ECC (and other colleges/universities) what the current recommendations are. I graduated with a Bachelor in CIS (programming) went back to school to say that I am interested in expanding my knowledge, and I am thinking about starting my MBA in the fall. I believe that it doesn’t matter how much you know because sometimes organizations set high standards for positions that are based on education level. The bets training and knowledge one can receive is on the job with people that are the experts in those positions already but on the other side, some people in the positions don’t belong in those positions but get in those positions because they have been part of the organization for a while or friendly with senior management.
Just finished my Avaya Certified Specialist certification in IP Telephony Implement and Support. I have the design Specialist exam Tuesday along with the SIP test and I am a Avaya Certified Expert Enterprise IP Telephony
