I know of all those venues , the dusted is new your right lol . I was just throwing examples out that shot right out . I was 9 in 89 so I didn’t see them yet . Yes when I got really into scene the 8 was a great band but Casey fucked em up as he always did . Was I a fan ? Yeah I was but they deft weren’t my fave one . I loved biohaz , straight jacket , one king down , desciples , etc . I love the brutal shit and not so much the punky sounding genra .