the difference is it is the parents choice to feed these kids the $$$ and it is my tax$$$ to paying these assholes. Huge difference…while I am working two jobs busting my ass paying taxes there are idiots that work the system and get a free ride off my tax dollar. Then you add in the fact most of these people are the idiots who go out looking for trouble always trying to be hardasses.
I love how someone who doesn’t live in the district and doesn’t have kids is going to tell someone else who lives in the district and had kids what is right and wrong.
And also, I didn’t see 77redneck say a damn word about the color of these kids skin. Not a damn word. I wouldn’t want kids from Duquesne just like I wouldn’t want kids from Millvale just like I wouldn’t want kids from wherever else is ghetto.
you saying central catholic just refreshed my memory of the few people i knew that went there. Pittspeed “Argument and Debate” threads are always so lively!
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that’s why my house search is where its at. plus i am a parent
Like I said it has a purpose and is a great thing for people who use it correctly…but like I also said there are more idiots that work the system than the people who use it how it was meant to be used. And no need to bring race into it.
it has nothing to do with color.
it has to deal with fucked up parents not giving a shit about kids and these kids(who see this as normal life) fucking with my kids.
I’m sorry, but the kids and parents should be punished. There should be a cause and effect for everything. You choose to not pay attention in school, therefore not get a good job, therefore don’t have the money for a house in a certain area? That’s too bad. You shouldn’t get help for it.
There should be a punishment for failure. But there isn’t. It’s handouts. I can’t do it myself so I need a handout.
My Dad graduated from there and i wish i went to High School there
i went to Shaler :down:
oh you are an expert in statistics of how many low income people commit crimes? where are the numbers that support ur 99%?
like bethel oark, baldwin, and other places aren’t full of wanna be’s, coke heads, pill poppers. The ghetto is in ur areas already, some of you are too blind to see it.
it was just a joke in the middle of all this :drama:
hey we beat their ass in baseball every year! :bigthumb:
there is a problem with that you said…classifying a neighborhood as “ghetto” is being judgmental of it’s residence when in fact some of them are trying to get out of there and better themselves or at least get their kids away from that. Thats exactly why there is always such a big fuss about things like this. There are kids in those neighborhoods that want to learn just as much as any other kid
There are problems on both ends…there are the fucked up parents who want to do nothing for themselves or their kids…whether they be black, white, or purple it doesn’t matter, and there are also the kids that are trying to do something…to be better than their parents…and they have to deal with the assholes who say “Oh i don’t want those kid of people around my kids” What kind of people? people that are trying to better themselves and come up in the world? People have nothing better to do than to pick on someone elses problems when they know damn well they have their own. It should be a group effort to help those willing to be helped whether they be from North Braddock or Mt. Lebanon
sorry i didn’t hear you i was busy reading about all the central grads that run this city. lookat it this way, when ur suburban kid goes nuts and shoot up the school because someone made fun of him you can get central grad john elash to get him off the hook… unless central grad stephen zapala has a good case… but then central grad judge jeffery manning could dissmiss the charges all together. and maybe he could go on to work for federated investors…of course central grads got that one covered too. hell why not stop by aiellos… you know all about them don’t u eric…
there may be families in those places that want to get out and want to better themselves are few and far between and this wonderful country that we live in wants to reach out and help out those ones that want to better themselves however there are too many that dont give a shit and will just live off the system that fall into the same category. Its a no win situation.
The reality of it is is that is it really worth helping the very few and letting the majority just take advantage.
that is just a fact of life that has been going on since time started…a good example royal families keep being royal families because of who they are. Its exactly the same now as it has always been, thats just life. Very few start from the bottom and get to the top although some do there are very few.
that is just a fact of life that has been going on since time started…a good example royal families keep being royal families because of who they are. Its exactly the same now as it has always been, thats just life. Very few start from the bottom and get to the top although some do there are very few.
i forgot… if you want a house, CC grad howdy hanna has got what ur looking for. hell i’ll show some love to North catholic (first time ever) ravenstal and rooney. i’m so glad none of these people went to suburban high schools… they may have gotten influenced by bad bussed in kids.
they are doing the right thing… send em to WM and EA instead of MCKSPT where their would surely be some issues… hell bus em out to alliquippa… talk about a dynasty!
There is only one guy that runs this city, and he went to North Catholic, not Central :kekegay:
yeah but the only reason he’s there is because of a guy from greenfield and pittsburgh public school… bobby O’snap
Man can some people generalize. Where some get their statistics from is beyond me. Especially when they probably have no clue about the district other than maybe getting lost in it trying to follow a Kennywood sign that someone turned to point the wrong way.
First off, there are only like 200 kids in Duquesne’s entire high school. That is hundreds less than just my graduating class. Split up those 200, not all of which would even actually go to school… and you don’t really have that big of an effect on anything.
Their tax base sucks. They don’t have the money to provide a good education for their kids. They deserve a good education. Whether that is the fault of their parents or not, they deserve the chance. Unless you grew up in that area or that background, you can’t assume anything about them or their families. It is always the people who “have” who assume the “have nots” are taking advantage of the system. Join the have nots for a while and realize that isn’t the majority some believe.
They can get a good education at West Mifflin. Not to mention parts of West Mifflin are every bit as bad, poor, and “ghetto” as Duquesne. EA, too. Color doesn’t matter; some “white” parts of both districts are just as bad as Duquesne. And I wouldn’t count EA as that great of a district, either. Certainly not one that should be thumbing their noses at Duquesne kids.
I went to Langley (city school) for two years. My mom was a single parent on welfare and we knew about every possible way to make a bag of oodles of noodles taste good (adding hot dogs, tuna, etc.), and how to make the one bag feed 3 people. Grew up in a racially mixed project where color didn’t matter. Lack of money and usually the lack of a father bonded most of us together.
My last two years were at NA after my mother remarried and we were singing like the friggen “Jeffersons”… movin’ on up… to the sky…
Kids are kids. NA kids did different drugs because they could afford them. But they did them, just the same. NA had kids who would excel. So did Langley. NA had kids who are now in jail. So did Langley.
The big difference to me is that the kids from Langley learned to accept and deal when placed in bad situations or around people not like them, because they were exposed to it all their lives. Kids from NA were generally not accepting of those unlike them, and also had very incorrect ideas of what being “black” or “poor” was like. And they didn’t deal well when situations turned to shit. Because they were used to the shit being cleaned up by someone else, usually their parents.
I agree with everything Cutty has said.
In addition, I believe many have blinders on to think that just moving your kid to a different district is going to keep them from growing up to be an asshole. Teach them to succeed, and they will, regardless of what district they may attend. Too many parents send their kids to school thinking the school should be the babysitter and the school should be the one who teaches their kids everything that my generation learned from their parents.
Do more research and talk to some of the kids from the actual districts before you jump on the generalization bandwagon and assume that a place like Duquesne is nothing but problems, and life in the rich white suburbs is absolutely grand. They all have the same problems; the suburban districts are just better at covering it up. Highest incidence of heroin problems… “ranked” suburban rich district. Highest incidence of teen pregnancy… “ranked” suburban rich district. None of these is West Mifflin, EA, or Duquesne.
Kudos to WM for taking the kids. Bitch slap to EA for thinking they are any better and wanting to sue the state over it.
who in the hell are any of you to talk about how many people in the “ghetto” want out???
When was the last time you went there and spoke to them?
Exactly…
looks like cutty and I are the only ones in that 1% ratio.