I’ve tuned FP Red’s on DSMs, and I’ve tuned a lot of Evos, but this was the first FP Red Evo that I’ve tuned. I’m also still getting a feel for how our dyno reads compared to others, but I’d expect a DSM with an FP Red and similar mods to make more power than this. On the other hand the Red is just a name and FP is cryptic about what’s in their hybrid turbos so I don’t know how the DSM and Evo FP Red’s compare.
I can tell you that it didn’t make any more power running it leaner and it wouldn’t take any more timing consistantly without knocking so short of running more boost or changing things mechanically on the car…this is what it can make. I don’t feel that running more boost daily on pump gas is prudent for someone that wants their car to last despite beating on it.
The shop that tuned it before me has tuned a lot of Evos with FP Reds and they were happy with their results. Then I improved on the power their tune made a good deal and the customer was super happy with the difference in power on the street so we’re headed in the right direction. If we get into working on the car we’ll get to find out what the holdup is, but we didn’t build the car. The car smoked oil smoke out the tailpipe when it got here so I was a bit reluctant to tune it, but it seemed to behave on the dyno. I don’t know if he’ll run it at the track or not. Maybe he will and we’ll get a better idea of how it’s performing.
Those Caliber SRT4’s are a lot harder to get fast than their predecessors. The motor design is superior though, which is a good platform to start with :tup:
Especially with me at the wheel! :roll: There is some power in there, just not allowed to have all of it with the stock pcm. If it senses too much torque, it closes the throttle. Stage one allows for a little more fun.
Here’s the 09 WRX I tuned this morning with an Invidia catted downpipe and cat back exhaust. Normally I expect to get a bit more power out of a car beyond the Cobb off the shelf mapping and make the car run a bit smoother etc., but this car was on a whole other level.
It was pulling timing over a broad range of RPMs while at full boost on the Cobb map. I was able to make more power and torque at all RPMs, quicken spool by a few hundred RPM, smooth power delivery, and remove the knock/timing pull while running LESS boost than the Cobb map.
he ran at the trap and it was 12.4 @ 114 i believe if that helps any, he said the 2 step made him bog out a little bit on the launch and is hoping for high 11’s how it sits with a different 2 step and not hot lapping it like he was (times ran at nyirp btw)
Jason’s ET and trap in his STI with worse gearing for the 1/4 make it clear how the dyno reads. He also doesn’t flat shift.
I don’t know if the owner of the Evo went to the track, but if he did and that’s what he ran he just needs to keep working at it. 12.4 is easily achievable on the stock turbo with good driving. With the power he has it’s definitely capable of 11’s.
On the other hand, getting a good time out of a manual shift car at the track isn’t easy. Some of us have more practice at it than others. I’ve seen countless Evos and STIs run 12’s at the track with 35Rs. It’s real easy to screw up in the first part of the run and cost yourself bigtime at the other end of the track. Then figure in how much more it hurts on a bigger turbo when you don’t shift quickly and there you have it…a slow time. Heck, my car went from running 11.8-12.2 to low/mid 10’s just by changing tires so I could launch it and get through 1st gear without wheel hopping…
When a stock 08 STI puts down < 200 whp here and does 225-250 whp in all the graphs I’ve seen online, I know our dyno reads low.
edit: I just noticed you said cars with 270 whp go that fast…which makes sense because that’s in the ballpark for a stock turbo setup. I agree.