NY 198 now 30mph. Cover the 33? Skyway a park?

It should stop at parkside, and pick up again more towards the tennis courts so there is still access to the 190 from delaware…that whole middle part inbetween those 2 sections should just combine both sides of the park/cemetary like it used to be.

Drove it today and man, this used to be one of my favorite roads :frowning:

State police were out ticketing too. There was a pickup pulled over.

I’m sure this is what most people think on the surface but when you dig deeper there are broader consequences to consider:

How would this effect commercial traffic? Would large trucks use a slower parkway or neighborhood streets to connect from the 190? Or would they take longer routes with the highways surrounding the city and increasing traffic there?

What is the economic impact? It’s really impossible to guess but certainly any change will have some measurable consequences to local businesses, the Zoo, etc. Some positive, some negative for sure.

What about slower traffic with longer idle times or constant acceleration / stopping increasing particulates, NOx, VOCs, etc in the air and lowering overall quality? Ask the air quality “nuts” living around the peace bridge what they think of slower traffic.

What about access to Sisters Hospital? An argument could be made that the 198 has saved more lives because of it’s ease of access to this hospital than lives lost due to drivers falling asleep at the wheel.

Essentially I’m pointing out that it’s not just a cut and dry issue. Which leads to this:

It was such a quick and specific response that I don’t think it’s tin foil hat. Many political “solutions” to “problems” are designed to have triggers if the standard means of achieving them are too onerous. I won’t get into examples here but it’s standard in the community organizing toolbox. That’s not to say the method is wrong or right, just that it certainly is used.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.”

Fun fact if it becomes a parkway

“If you are moving in New York, then you have probably rented a moving truck, cargo van or trailer. In New York, moving equipment rentals are classified as commercial vehicles, so there are parkway restrictions you must be aware of. One of the reasons moving equipment is considered commercial, is that it is branded with a company name, such as U-Haul. According to NYC DOT, commercial vehicles, trucks and tractor trailers are not allowed on New York State parkways. The image below shows some of the parkways that are open or closed to commercial vehicles.”

You are 100% right. How dare they!

Ya dump more traffic on Parkside right next to kids and the zoo.

BPD doesn’t have radar and troopers don’t patrol that street so I think you can still go 55 if you are really that pissed off at it.

Elaborate please

Curious were you pulled that from as well… LMAO

It wouldn’t be the first time preset reactionary plans are implemented, and it probably won’t be the last.

If it gets officially turned into a parkway, all you guys with commercial plates on your pickup trucks might be banned from it as well

A BPD officer.

That being said, they still can visually ID your speed as trained officers so its not a free pass.

BPD can’t even afford AWD SUV’s. They also have a “no-chase” policy. What makes you believe they have radar? :lol:

I TAKE THIS HOME FROM WORK EVERY NIGHT AT 11:30ISH AND LITERALLY EVERY NIGHT SINCE THIS HAPPENED I HAVE SEEN SOMEONE PULLED OVER AND RECIEVING A TICKET.

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sorry for shouting up there

Be careful if you’re on a bike, they’re puting in little speed bumps everywhere. Not a big deal if you’re following speedlimit though, just a heads up.
I haven’t seen many people pulled over and I’m on the 198 almost everyday at 8pm and 4:30am

Any problems for lowered cars?

I drive the 198 about 2-4 times a day, i’ve seen BPD sitting around a couple times, but haven’t seen anyone pulled over. its usually pretty clear at 6am

I wonder how much this has costed us with the new signs, work, repairs, recent patrols and now the speed bumps.

Buffalo cops aren’t traffic cops since they have more important things to deal with so I highly doubt Buffalo has pulled cops away from their normal routines to sit there and watch speeders and more likely added staff to it and the way this city operates, probably paying overtime.

I have seen them there at night when it was 55 and anytime someone has flown by them, they just flash their lights and still sit there.

I was on the 198 Thursday and as hard as I tried, I could only manage to slow down to 40. I felt like a complete menace driving at that speed and thought that I was going to get rear ended anytime.

State troopers were shooting radar the past few times I was down that way.

Only a matter of time. It has to be a goldmine for fines now that they can hit people going the original speed limit with a massive fine.

Jackpot