And your point?
OK. I read through this report and they are including Healthcare spending in their definition of Welfare.
This is a bit dishonest, I feel.
See: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/ for a couple breakdowns of how the budget is spent.
Marriage is a wild goose chase, Health care reform is the key.
only Means-Test aid healthcare is included, as it should be.
So, basically all medicaid and most of medicare…
What else is left?
Well obviously healthcare reform IS the most important issue, but thats not to say single mothers are paying for their kids checkups themselves. But like I said before, there is no simple answer to this problem. It is one however that needs to be addressed.
What ever happened to that governor from the south who wanted to offer a tax credit to low IQ people to NOT reproduce lmao?
the other 49%
I might be missing somthing here but if you quit you typically aren’t eligible for unemployment.
yeah you missed the sarcasm. 
:word: I would never expect hand outs. Its my responsability to takecare of myself and my family. Thats why I have savings and/or insurance so if something did happen, we’d be covered. I was just messing around of course.
I volunteer as a VITA tax preparer.
You wouldn’t believe the attitudes some of the people that I did a free tax return for had. Even if they didn’t work, they would get some fully refundable credits back (CTC, EITC), and end up receiving a full refund of taxes paid during the year, and receiving some credits from the IRS. Then they would often get angry at me because they didn’t think that their refund was high enough. #1, I just did your tax return for free. #2, you got a refund for all taxes claimed. #3, they IRS just gave you extra money. What more do you want?
Now the more serious issue is this. A lot of those people deserved all that money that came back to them, but does that really matter if they deserved it or not? It’s easy to denounce these people as bums, or deserving of where they ended up in life, but you need to assess the cold hard facts. A lot of these people never ‘succeeded’ because America failed them and did not provide adequate schooling, etc.
It’s easy to attack the poor and say that they live in the bed they make, but a lot of people never really had a chance anyways.
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interestingly, however, the same people you mentioned have a much, much better opportunity that millions of people out there in the third world countries.
The least thing that they could do is to at least complete high school to get a decent, respectable job as a source of income.
- Primary and secondary level education is “free,” albeit the fact that we as tax payers paid for it.
- The federal government even provide GED coupon to cover tuition and related expenses.
Unfortunately, some (NOT all) of these people actually try very, very hard everyday to cheat the system and get welfare checks without doing any work. Heck, they even cheat on the GED coupons by cashing it and pretending to fail the classes and convince the government to give them another check (this is also partly the government’s stupidity for not taking care of its own program, but…that’s another topic).
Do you know that in majority, if not all, of other third world countries, you have to pay for all level of educations (K-12, University)? Poor people work very hard as beggars, street musician, windshield washer, etc. just to get enough money to feed their family for one day and strive their best to send their kids to cheaper public school. And no, there is no such thing as government handouts. Its either you work, or you die.
Is such condition in third world countries a good thing? Of coarse not! People over there wish upon a star that they could give their kids a proper education for “free”…and perhaps, some form of welfare so that they could stand up, turn around, start moving to a new direction and put themselves in a better position in life. However, as we all know, once the handouts are given out, people will only ask for more…and more…and cheat…and ask for more…
IMHO, what was meant as a good thing by FDR after the recession, a.k.a. welfare, turned out to be an addictive substance like cocaine. Most of the people (NOT all), are not using it properly and will ask for even more. If this keeps going on, people will only ask for more…and whose side, in the government, would help provide them with the “addictive substance?” Perhaps even leading this nation to the point of socialism? Maybe to get their votes as well?
One good quote on socialism:
As Pope Leo XIII pointed out as long ago as 1891 in his Encyclical “Rerum Novarum”, socialism does not help the poor. Rather, it reduces everyone to the same lowest common denominator of poverty and misery, while at the same time drying up the very sources of capital.
if some people that are on welfare spend HALF as much effort into getting a real job as they do on working the system they’d be reasonably well off if you ask me… the system breeds dirt bags.
I couldn’t agree with you more. 
I have traveled throughout the entire country.
Western New York, has a very large group of people on welfare for generations, who are just unmotivated to work because they don’t have to.
Now we are giving them cell phones for free, and free money for back to school (I’m sure that the parents spend that money on the kids, lol)…
Its such a cancer around here. I work nights, and when I drive around during the day in certain areas, you see groups of young males just roaming the streets.
So, what’s going on here?
Under Baucus Bill, Mandate Penalty Could Lead to Prison, Congressional Analysts Say
That’s just one of the concerns Republicans say the Democratic-run Congress is ignoring in the rush to pass legislation to overhaul the nation’s health care system.
:picard:
Im not wise with politics but…
Most of the people on welfare smoke crack or spend their money on some sort of drug.
How i know, ive been working in different hoods for sometime ive seen enough.
It is just as much a fault of bad parenting as bad education. Yes, our education system is HORRIBLE, but parents should not have the mentality of sending their kids off to school as daycare and thinking they will learn everything they need to know there. Education should not stop when school is out.
this. <3
I want to secede from the union