The OCC show is a fucking joke and both Sr and Jr are tools IMO.
The show is stupid and the sooner it’s off the better. Their business boomed off this show, not because they build a good bike, but because companies got free TV advertisement when they were on the show and were filing in to be chosen to do so.
Off topic… Met them multiple times during the time we were traveling show-show with the bike and they were the only guys there(shop wise) at the shows that didn’t acknowledge us. Would walk by, glance over for half a second, and kept on walking. The few times Pete and I would try to make conversation with them they were far to busy with themselves to show interest. All awhile the other guys like Matt Hotch, Arlen and Cory Ness, the detroit brothers, Joe Martin, etc were stopping in and talking with us for hours on end…and they are FAR better at building beautiful bikes than those arrogant fucks with this show. I don’t give a crap one way or another, but they talk like their gods on that stupid show and they are nowhere near as good as the other big guys out there.
Unfortunately their drama sold Discovery and 800 seasons later they’re still pulling in ratings with their rant/rave super scripted, overly self-narrated show.