A car has two instances of ‘right of way’. He’s making a left and he arrived first.
Also, it’s common courtesy. B car has to wait for only one lane of traffic to complete his journey. Car A has to wait for both sides to be clear before he can proceed on his.
It also depends on who is on the other side. If it’s @Geoff, then I’m going first. If it’s @Zong, I’m waiting for him to put about 100 yards between us.
…or a 90 year old lady decides shes going to give up her right of way to let cars into the circle. And the incoming cars wont enter the circle because they dont think they have enough time. And what should be perfectly flowing traffic comes to a screeching halt at all 4 entries.
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Well, I just emailed the New York Safety Council to see if they’ll weigh in.
Why? I feel I’m better than BMW drivers and I certainly don’t trust VW drivers. :mamoru:
That’ll be an awesome email subscription list to get on.
“My logic is undeniable.”
I AGREE…if used properly…they are great
B… who arrived first has no weight in this as long as both are sitting there waiting for the road to clear.
I was told in drivers school years ago that it’s who gets there first, so A. Unless you arrive at the same time then B goes first because he/she has a shorter distance to travel.
So it’s looking like a good chance of a cluster fuck if 2 random NYSpeeders are cars A and B in this situation. 
Still no fault though! WOOPPPPEEEE
nah, because regardless of law, B always wins. A just needs to accept that.
Both pull out at the same time and A goes into the left lane and B goes into the right lane. Win-win.
QFT
At a 4 way intersection common courtesy applies, but in this scenario B will always get the right of way as frustrating as it may be.
I find it hard to believe the law would allow for an interpretation of “who was there first”. I’m going to go with treating it like a light turned green. Car going straight would have right of way, cars turning left must wait for traffic to clear.
A has the right of way BUT, if there is a collision the only physical proof is that A crossed traffic (Which is bad). B can say he got there first and A will have no proof he did… Unless a drone records the accident of course.
I experience this situation relatively frequently and am often the A car. I find usually the traffic on the B side of the cross street clears last so I have the slight advantage of the traffic clearing in front of me moments before the right turn is clear…so I head right out behind the crossing traffic…unless they have the same plan I’m already in the lane by the time they have a chance to pull out.
This. Vehicle B has right of way, no question.
I’m still sticking with vehicle B. Vehicle A has to cross 2 lanes to make their turn. Vehicle B only has 1 and also has the path of least resistance. Without a stop sign, Vehicle B automatically has the right of way, why would a stop sign change that? If there was a light there, A would have to wait for B to turn, the proceed.