S14 aftermarket sway + energy suspension urethane brackets

hey guys, i haven’t installed all my bushings in yet, and i don’t have aftermarket sways (YET). anyway, from what i read and asked, most aftermarket sways use the oem mounting brackets. and the energy suspension brackets are made to be used with the oem sways.

just wondering if the 2 are compatible?

thanks in advance

edit - i forgot to mention, the kit came with the sway bar end links too. i figure these would work, but if u guys know the answer 4 sure, let me know please.

I know forsure the Whiteline Sways use the stock D Bracket and if Energy
sells D Brackets for OEM Sway bars then I wouldn’t see a problem.

But why get new D Brackets?

no, i was just wondering if i should install the bushings now, or just wait until i get some good sway bars, and then install everythin at once.

and don’t aftermarket sways have a wider diameter than oem?

thanks again

  1. Just wait.

  2. Yes they are thicker. They come with their own D Bushings and Endlinks

Edited by Gautam:
Whiteline sways don’t come wiht D-brackets, but D-bushings.

do you know of any sway bars that use the factory d-brakcets and end links???

thanks

Whiteline’s do.

the whitelines don’t use oem endlinks? they come with their own.

As far as I know, susp tech. uses oem endlinks, so does cusco. The idea of using oem endlinks seems kinda silly to me, because you are getting a thicker anti sway bar, but the strength of the endlinks is not being increased at all.

This is why I personally like the whitelines, they come with everything and are easy to install.

If you want to upgrade your end-links, you have a few options:

Go to PDM’s website and get their adjustable swaybar endlinks, which is
sold for $65USD (almost $100CAD shipped).

Or, if you notice, the endlinks are basically Heim Joints. A Heim-Joint is
similar to the pillow-ball mounts you see on aftermarket tension rods and
such. What you can try to do is find a shop/store locally that sells the
Heim-joints and try making your own endlinks.

I do believe you would need some sort of L-bracket like the ones
Whitelines come but you might be able to get away with buying just the
male heim-joint. Look at the stock endlinks and you will understand.

I’ve only found a few sellers on eBay that sell these joints.

They look like this:

MALE:
http://www.industrialliquidators.com/photos/36a.rodends.jpg

FEMALE:
http://www.industrialliquidators.com/photos/351f.rodends.jpg

so guys, i guess i should have been more clear. The energy suspension hyper flex kit comes with urethane sway bar D- mounting bracket (they are wrapped in metal), as well as sway bar end links (they look like 4 polyurethane wine gums, stacked on top of eachother, like the OEM ones). So, you see, I would like to get the best use out of the kit, and use all the poly urethane bushings that i have. Those bushings were made to be used with the OEM sway bar, thats why I am asking for an aftermarket sway bar that uses the OEM sway bar brackets AND end links.

sorry for not be clear the first time, and thanks for the info!!

According to CourtesyParts.com, the Hyperflex system comes with:

- 24mm and 25mm Front Sway Bar Bushings - Endlink Bushings - Rear Sway Bar Endlink Bushings

So it only came with the Front swaybar bushings kit? But endlinks for
both front and rear? If so, then I guess these sway bushings/endlinks will
just hook right up in place of the OEM ones.

Unfortunately, the D-bushings won’t fit on aftermarket swaybars because
as Phil posted, the ST front bar is 28.5mm (and you only have a 25mm
and 24mm).

Very easy install actually. You won’t feel much of a difference from
bushing/endlink swaps on OEM swaybars. Your best shot is to save up
for aftermarket ST swaybars (which will come with the D-bushings).

BTW, I have (almost) finished installing my Whiteline bushings kit and
will post some pictures/how-tos shortly.

It’s about the journey, not the destination. In this case, the journey was
a PITA. :frowning:

i’ll check the kit in the middle, i’m pretty sure the kit comes with both f and r bushing kit for sway bars (it doesn’t come with the rear end bushing though, like upper mount, rear lca, ect.).

i have access to a drill press, and was thinking of drilling out the D brackets to the thickness of the aftermarket sways (28.5mm). although the rear may be difficult, since they are pretty small. but if i get a system that comes with the hardware, i will just use that

gonad, what are you using to push out your lca OEM bushings with? a vice, or do you have access to a press? I could use the press at my work, but i don’t have the time to do it there (and they might get pissed to see a parted out nissan suspension in a honda shop). but if i can do it at home, that would be ideal.

thanks

My dad is a machinist. He has press at his work that I used for all my bushings.

I tried drilling it and hacking it out; trust me it’s not as easy as it seems,
and sure wasn’t worth the time.

If you have a heavy duty table vice, you might be able to pop the old
bushings out (and new ones in). Will require some muscle (and a pipe
for leverage on the bars). As well you will need some metal tubes/pipes
that are the size of the old bushing sleeves.

I seriously suggest you try and use the press at work. You will thank
yourself later.

Here a vice is being used to push out the old T/C rod bushing.
http://www.mindspring.com/~gulag13/WLinstall/images/DCP_0282.jpg

More pics/article here: http://www.240sx.org/atlanta/TC_bushing_install.htm

i did the tie rod bushing already, i figure they are the hardest. lca bushings don’t look too bad, i will mosy likely use the shop press, but i was hoping to get a 2nd set of lca’s so i don’t have to take my current suspension apart and take up a hoist at my shop all day (they won’t like a nissan in pieces in a honda shop).

ah, maybe they won’t care, thanks gonad.

I found the front LCA to be a bitch because the arm wouldn’t drop out
(at the ball joint) where it goes through the spindle.

Once you take the cotter pin out, take the nut out, you just need a chisel
and a big-ass hammer, and as Adam would like to put it, just “Give 'er”.

Buy the co-workers coffe in the morning, and then use the press. Problem solved. :slight_smile: