umm yes it would produce a flame, but how much energy is used to create the radio waves?
wouldnt that lower the ocean levels greatly
WHY WONT YOU DIE.
not news really,
Last winter, inventor John Kanzius was already attempting one seemingly impossible feat—building a machine to cure cancer with radio waves—when his device inadvertently succeeded in another: He made saltwater catch fire. TV footage of his bizarre discovery (check out the video below) has been burning up the blogosphere ever since, drawing crackpots and Ph.D.s alike into a raging debate. Can water burn? And if so, what good can come of it?
Some people gush over the invention’s potential for desalinization or cheap energy. Briny seawater, after all, sloshes over most of the planet’s surface, and harnessing its heat energy could power all sorts of things. Skeptics say Kanzius’s radio generator is sucking up far more energy than it’s creating, making it a carnival trick at best.
For now, Kanzius is tuning out the hubbub. The retired radio- and television- station owner says the saltwater stuff is interesting, but a cancer breakthrough is what he’s really after. Diagnosed with leukemia in 2002, he began building his radio-wave blaster the next year, soon after a relapse. His lifelong fascination with radio provided further inspiration. Radio station antennas, he knew, can turn a bystander’s metal eyeglasses toasty warm. If he could seed a person’s cancerous cells with nanoscopic metal particles and blast them with radio waves, perhaps he could kill off the cancer while sparing healthy tissue.
The saltwater phenomenon happened by accident when an assistant was bombarding a saline-filled test tube with radio waves and bumped the tube, causing a small flash. Curious, Kanzius struck a match. “The water lit like a propane flame,” he recalls.
"People said, ‘It’s a crock. Look for hidden electrodes in the water,’ " says Penn State University materials scientist Rustum Roy, who visited the Erie, Pennsylvania, inventor in his lab in August after seeing the feat on Google Video. A demo made Roy a believer. “This is discovery science in the best tradition,” he says. Roy thinks the sodium chloride in the water may weaken the bonds between the oxygen and hydrogen atoms, which are broken free by radio waves. It’s these gas molecules that are igniting, he explains, not the liquid itself. Tests show that the reaction disappears once the radio waves stop. Roy plans to conduct more tests to get to the bottom of the mystery.
Meanwhile, researchers at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center have made progress using Kanzius’s technology to fight cancer in animals. They published their findings last month in the journal Cancer.
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wouldnt that lower the ocean levels greatly
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God I hate the news media with a passion. Water doesnt burn you fucking idiots. Hydrogen and air do. They distort everything they write about. This guys RF process mimics electrolysis of water which has been around for decades. Its nothing new.
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This guys RF process mimics electrolysis of water which has been around for decades. Its nothing new.
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not really news. Sadly if takes to much energy to convert the salt water in Hydrogen so while it is pretty cool it is also pretty much useless.
All you “science” people and your “logic” and fancy energy equasions. This is for real and the only reason we aren’t filling our cars up with salt water is Bush and the damn oil companies.
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not really news. Sadly if takes to much energy to convert the salt water in Hydrogen so while it is pretty cool it is also pretty much useless.
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I thought so too at first but then realized there may be other applications. Its not easy to break a water molecule apart and the fact that he did it with RF is an achievement in itself.
Well, won’t it finally even out? You use what fuel we have now to get it started, untill you can establish it running on the water fuel. Now as violator said, its been around for a while, but I didn’t know it generated a flame, I thought electrolysis just kinda burned it up in one big explosion. Is the invention a form of controlling its use? Kinda like if your gas tank explodes, you wont get very far even though its the same amount of energy. Or the reason behind the electron transport chain in cells?
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Well, won’t it finally even out? You use what fuel we have now to get it started, untill you can establish it running on the water fuel. Now as violator said, its been around for a while, but I didn’t know it generated a flame, I thought electrolysis just kinda burned it up in one big explosion. Is the invention a form of controlling its use? Kinda like if your gas tank explodes, you wont get very far even though its the same amount of energy. Or the reason behind the electron transport chain in cells?
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Electrolysis breakes up water into oxygen and hydrogen exactly as this guys process. Exact same thing… just accomplished differently. Electrolysis is slower if im not mistaken. He is generating hydrogen at a rate fast enough to sustain a burn. The hydrogen is still using surrounding air to burn tho.
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I thought so too at first but then realized there may be other applications. Its not easy to break a water molecule apart and the fact that he did it with RF is an achievement in itself.
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yes but whatever way you looks it at it still takes more energy to create the hydrogen then the hydrogen produces. I know it sucks but the laws of physics are a real bitch. It would never be feasible to use this system to produce energy.
you’re not creating hydrogen.
its fission.
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yes but whatever way you looks it at it still takes more energy to create the hydrogen then the hydrogen produces. I know it sucks but the laws of physics are a real bitch. It would never be feasible to use this system to produce energy.
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Why are peoples minds stuck in 1 gear? I said “Other Applications”
That means aside from energy production. Maybe water desalinization. Many possibilities.
HOW do you KNOW it would never be feasible for energy production?
WHERE does this blank speculation come from???
You know everything about the process from a youtube video?
WTF people. Give the guy a chance.
If everything innovative was discredited from the start then we would not make any technological progress at all.
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you’re not creating hydrogen.
its fission.
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quiet nerd 
So then why does it have to be salt water? I wonder if the sodium is getting burnt too?
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So then why does it have to be salt water? I wonder if the sodium is getting burnt too?
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quiet nerd
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