HOLY @!@! I almost just pissed myself Mike, that’s amazing.
:lol:
Xander, trust me when I say it’s possible, with those seats stock belts are safer.
HOLY @!@! I almost just pissed myself Mike, that’s amazing.
:lol:
Xander, trust me when I say it’s possible, with those seats stock belts are safer.
Hahaha, at the pic. Would seem like those belts could stand a good chance of breaking your shoulders though an impact at those angles.
so sexy xander
:lolham:
BS! X is not that skinny.
LOLLLLLLLLLL
EDIT: if you’re going to go that low, you should really, really consider the skid plate protectors, or preferably - the rollers…
here’s the skid plate protectors:
http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-2-41-590.html
it’s bad enough on a stock z51, i’m sure yours was madd low to begin with…
looks great!
EDIT2: rollers:
looking good man!
Looks nice :tup: z06s are one of my favs fo sho
:eyebrow:
I took race car vehicle dynamics I and II and I still don’t see the relevance of changing the control arm’s length, especially seeing how he lowered a car with SLA ~1.5 inches. The stock control arms are not at any extreme angles, and the change in height only changes the angle minutely. The control arms are now statically more along their camber curve, which is good. If adjusted properly a stock C5 can achieve a camber of -1.2/-1.5 front and -.8/-.9 rear.
I’m saying over all, the best bet to increase traction would be to adjust his camber to the max, possibly get the rear camber plates to obtain -1.2 in front and rear, and buy a more sticky tire. I don’t even think anyone makes a different length control arm for the c5…I maybe wrong on that though.
Question: How much shorter would you make them? And what one would you decrease the length of? I could be entirely wrong, so enlighten me on the subject!
Nice work Jaeger, looks like are taking a few art classes in your spare time.
UGOSOSLOW- the shifter is a great improvement over the stock stuff, so far I like it, and it’s only been in the car for the 6 miles I have driven it so far. The Vararam was kinda a PITA to put in, however the biggest issue was not having enough room to work up front there. If I did it again I would leave the car 1/2 in and out of the garage and leave myself enough room to move around under the front of the car. All in all I WOULD do it again.
ly555is- I looked at the frame savers, for underneath, but that is never where I really scrape. Those rollers in the front are OK, but I already scraped the arms they attach to, and it’s a nice reminder that I’m too close. LOL I kinda worry that with those rollers it wil be so quiet that I don’t hear the “contact” and keep moving like nothing is wrong.
The coil-over suspension setup is very similar to the GM race version of the Z06, it’s about the same ride height as my car is, so I’m sure it works well.
your rims… give them to me…
looks sick :tup:
it’s a little different with double wishbone, but the principal still holds true, you just have more shit to replace. see: http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_rollcenter.htm
this corvette article sort of explains it, but wrong generation:
http://www.maxchevy.com/tech/2007/ii_3-classm-2.html
here is a good article for the 350Z which has a similar front suspension. I believe dmoffitt runs these parts and noticed a BIG improvement:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0508_sccp_making_it_stick_part_3/index.html
Interesting. I will have to take pictures and draw a mock C5 suspension up in Cad. The C5 double wish bone ball joints are both contained inside the wheel circumference.
I had something nice typed up yesterday, counter quotes and all, but didn’t feel like being a dick (for a change) and deleted it all.
But since you had to go there; open up page 615 of Milliken & Milliken.
-Yes, you can negatively affect a car’s handling by lowering it too much
AND
-Usually, a car handles better (over stock) by simply throwing on some stiff springs, shocks, and lowering it.
I’m sure Xander will be happy with the changes, and unless a driver has umteen years of experience they wouldn’t immediately notice the increase rolling moment, minute camber changes, blah, blah.
That is the most true statement here.
I should look up that optimization paper, IIRC tire stiffness > spring rate > dampening > lower ball joint placement (which in turn affects LCA and I.C.s)
When I said relevance, I meant relevance to X. I know what it will do to an all out race car, I just meant I didn’t think that should be any concern of his. I just wanted to say that there are numerous other cheaper, easier things to change before fabing up a custom set of control arms.
I in no means meant it was useless, just more that I thought it was impractical for a street car.
But all in all I will now be taking up measurements and plugging those into a simple cad model to show the over all change in geometry.
X would need to butter that seat up to get in and out of it.
see my avatar for proof
Nice modifications Xander.
those seats are awesome.
Yeah, I certainly need the wide version of race seats, and not all of them come like that. :lol:
X…