Supercar vs. Hypercar

How would you define one vs. the other?

your thoughts?

i would put the P1 & 918 in the hypercar territory

most ferrari’s and lambo’s in supercar category

911 GT3 at the top of the sports car category

I agree with your categorization.

agree with them that the gallardo isnt a supercar… the Ferrari 360 isnt, nor the F430 but i would put the 458 in supercar territory.

for hypercar, the argument is pretty good where in order to be a hyper car the guys who made it have to be chasing an ideal and pushing conventional boundaries for technology, physics, luxury, performance etc. P1, Veyron, Pagani, Koenigsegg go there.

Also, the low volume of production and the fact that you have to ‘know someone’ to even be able to buy them is good criteria as well. Scarcity and exclusivity are certainly factors.

Super and Hyper are so yesterday’s news:

yeah i saw that.

It’s just a hopped up Agera though isnt it?

Why do you think the 458 is a super car, but the 430 it replaced wasn’t?

for no reason in particular :slight_smile:

so you asked how to define, but instead categorized.

It’s simple for me.

Supercar - Money is no object with priority on luxury and aesthetics

Hypercar - Money is no object with priority on technology and performance

Supercar - tiny dick.

Hypercar - tiny dick, more exclusive.

you can’t exclude performance from supercar categorization. hypercars are certainly a game of superlatives and that includes luxury and aesthetics. Pagani and Bugatti would be higher on luxury and aesthetics than a P1 but would still be hypercars imho.

you can’t exclude performance or luxury from either since money is no object… but you can certainly see the difference of priority between something like a Lambo aventador and a Mclaren P1.

agreed; but the Aventador has every bit the presence that the P1 has… perhaps more so to the average person.

it’s also 1/3 the price. aventador probably goes into supercar category… not hyper car. and that latest Lambo monstrosity goes into a category of stupid.

I try to keep money out of the debate between the two because it just clouds things and is not a good measure since a lot of the price is branding.

i’d agree with that to a degree. when the car has direct competitors the price needs to be reasonable. when the car gets into the stratosphere and there wont even be enough made or the clients have more money than they know what to do with the price disassociated itself from logic… any production car over a $1M is like that.