Supermoto Talk V2.0

As I am thinking more about bikes and looking at different options I think the more sensible and realistic approach may be a Supermoto style bike for me. The upright riding position that I am more familiar with, etc.

I know I have asked before about Supermotos and someone said the Husqvarna 511SMR needs engine service after 500 miles? What other options do I have in terms of a more user friendly Supermoto? Something other than a Suzuki, Kawasaki, or Honda.

The KTM 690 SMC looks like a decent bike, any thoughts on it?

http://www.ralepi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2010-KTM-690-SMC-Side-View-588x367.jpg

Why exclude all the Japanese make? Just wondering…

Same here- a CRF450 would make an excellent supermoto bike… and they’re plenty. Or the other common one- DRZ400…

Nothing against them, I just want to hear thoughts on what else is out there. I don’t really want to get into converting a bike either.

They do…but are quite maintenance intensive

Another reason I want to look at other options.

I dont mind doing basic maintenance, but having to get the top end torn apart every 500 miles could get to be a pain in the ass.

OP can also consider Aprilia SXV’s, ain’t cheap.

Most people can’t even deal with lubing their chain at 500…:lol.

IMO, SuMo’s are fun track/race bike; not sure if they will make good street bikes; If you want something “sensible” for street riding, SuMo’s are probably you last choice.

Obviously, I never own one so may be other members will have more/better insight.

Thats about the general price range I would be looking at. :thumbup

Drz400sm is probably the least maintanance intensive motard out there…

I loved my 05 KTM 625 SMC. Only things I changed were putting Metzler M3’s front and back, cutting the pipes, air box, jetting it and removing the useless power robbing stuff particular to that LC4 motor, put a new Z ring chain, and the aluminum center steel tooth KTM stealth sprocket on the back, 1 tooth smaller OEM steel front. Throttle response was EFI like, tq down low was nuts, and plenty of upper power to run it up to around 110mph, prior to ass pucker due to aerodynamic instability. Around town the 1 tooth down was tits! could still run 80mph on the highway and not rev it to the moon, but the grunt gained down low was sooo much more fun. Only thing I would have added if it were still in my garage is a steering stabilizer, front end was LIGHT and the aero features or lack there of made it a bit twitchy at high speeds when the front tire was unloaded.

Since there isnt a need to do 160mph, I never see myself on a sport bike again. A good rider, on a larger supermoto bike will YANK a decent rider on a sport bike on a twisty ride, until the straights. The 625 I had took everything I had the nut to throw at it. ZERO chicken stripe on the back of the SAME TIRE most street bikes have stock. Bottom of the pegs were scraped, and the sides of my boats were too, that bike would get LOW. It only weighed like 320lbs or so, which made it easy to flick too IMO. Also there is no better feeling then backing it into a turn and having someone come up to you at a stop light and say MAN I THOUGH YOU WERE GOING DOWN BACK THERE! :rofl

Another big reason to think sumo, is insurance! Full coverage on a single cylinder “enduro” bike I paid like $200 a year or something to that effect on it with collision, I was quoted over $1400 for a R6 with collision!

While supermoto’s wont get pussy on the back of it going bar to bar… if thats what your into, buy stock in wife beaters, sneakers, stay off my insurance carier, and give me a call when that new GIXXXXXER goes down! Sumos are built to ride, and ride hard.

GL getting that on the street. Cert of origin = need to apply for VIN then title.

A DRZ400 is a sweet bike too. I felt the KTM was in a different ballgame though, felt more like a road bike than a toy. Better brakes, clutch, suspension, over all feel. BUT the DRZ is alot cheaper, and can be upgraded big time. Still plenty of power when needed, lighter to flick around. Cheaper parts to replace when it takes a slide. It all depends.

My next dream bike. Hypermotard. /thread

had to take me back to the good ol times.

Thats kind of what I was thinking too, the lack of aerodynamics and gearing will prevent you from doing 100+ MPH bombs, the bike will do it but probably holding on is another story lol. And like you said, insurance in theory should be less.

My logic is that a supermoto should be more forgiving with the quality of roads around this area as opposed to a superbike. If I have to go down a dirt road I think I would feel more comfortable on a 'tard than a Ducati 848 haha.

I really like the Aprilia SXV 5.5. You can buy an optional 12 liter fuel tank (roughly 3.2 gallons) to replace the 2 gallon tank that comes with the bike, that might give me a few extra miles before hitting the next gas station.

Yeah aero sucks on them! A steering stabilizer I bet would make a world of difference on it though. Uneven roads are alot nicer on a sumo too. Early season bombs up Stoners Trail, Ridge Rd, etc around Scotia/RT5 area are usually dirty, full of small/large holes, frost heaves still. Once you know the road, you can blast up it and its like a supermoto track! My buddy with a yellow/blue DRZ400 and I would kick the shit out of those roads all the time, lapping it up and down in loops. We had some street bike guys think they were king shit wheelieing by us on RT 5 and followed up up the loop, we finished the loop like 30 seconds ahead, and they thought we were nuts! 10"+ travel owns 3" of travel on a street bike I guess. I set my bike up somewhat soft for bombing around town, and stiffened it right up for backroad bombs. On soft, I could hit sunken man holes at like 30mph sitting down and not really feel it, where on a SS bike I would have jumped off the seat and took it like a motocross bike with my legs/arms. Jumping curbs, loading docks, stairs, what ever was fun too! It felt like a big heavy dirtbike.

The gas thing, forgot to mention that. I got like 46mpg beating on it. Maybe 50 highway. But it had a tiny, for some reason I want to say 1.9 or 2.2 gal tank. I got about 100 miles and had to hit reserve. That got old quick.

Ohh and the seat was rock fucking hard on the KTM stock! And its a big single so the vibrations were not fun! Found my self side saddle sitting on it, swapping left to right thigh on long highway runs. I guess corban made a much nicer seat, but i never got it… so I would add that to the list… Steering Stabilizer and soft seat!

To be honest, if you want a SuMo, then get a SuMo; You don’t need to find a way to justifiy yourself of getting one. All the lack of aero and gearing preventing you from speeding, IMO, is just nonsense.

Get a bike you like and you can afford, respect your body by wearing gear, don’t go too crazy on public roads and have fun. Unless you know how to fly, riding will be the closest thing next to it. Enjoy! :thumbup

SuMo has a huge list of advantages to an SS especially if you ever think of leaving the blacktop. Don’t expect to travel the country or 400+ miles in a day though.

And Aaron that’s nonsense the fact that it keeps me from doing triple digit bombs but is still a blast is a huge reason why I love the DRZ.

well that and the fact that they are superior in the twisties :excited

I hear you guys, I’m going to get what I want but it’s nice to bounce ideas around.

My friend owns two Buells so he thinks everyone should have one and they’re the best thing on two wheels. While they are neat bikes, every one of them to me looks the same and I’m not crazy about the riding position on them. But that’s why there is more than one brand of motorcycles made.

Husqvarna ftmfw.

subscribed, i was looking into getting a drz400 in the near future

I’m buying one too. Vlad came up to the shop today and wouldn’t leave without me riding his DRZ(I have a thing against riding other peoples bikes, makes me nervous or some shit). He said that If I didn’t ride it he was going to kick the bike over in the driveway to prove he didn’t care if I put it down(which I did BTW, in a grassy field across from the shop :haha)

Anyway I’m glad I did ride it because the thing was a fucking blast and I’ll be looking to buy one sometime soon, hopefully withing the next few months.

Who rode mine around psi2high’s yard last year? Brett? :lol

DRZs are lame. :frowning: