T3/T4 50 Trim Vs GT35R

I think GT series turbos are a waste of money for the average owner.

Yes, they lag less.

But there’s never been hard evidence with actual #s of how much less they lag. Plus they can’t boost as high, and not only that but they’re expensive as hell. Don’t forget that a T3/T4 can be rebuilt for a fraction of the cost of a new one. Rebuilding a GT? Forget it.

Cost compared to the benefits…I’ll pass on it.

i dont know if you know this but garrett make a ball bearing upgrade for the T series turbos now if u want faster spool up for a little less than a new BB turbo

yea i know about the new CHRA but i still would need the flow of the gt35 to make any upgrade worth it

way to get your facts straight before posting that. i really hope you dont’ think that the only difference with a GT series turbo is that its ball bearing. the wheels are very different. And you can’t rebuild a GT? in the very rare occurance that it fails the CHRA IS replaceable. i won’t even comment on the " they can’t boost as high" because thats just…wow… yea

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werd. its not the ball bearing that makes it a great turbo. the wheel design is modern. the t4 is like a 20 year old design.

GT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN BALL BEARING!!!

http://www.precisionturbo.net/turbochargers-display.php?company_id=101795&category_id=3023

4 of the 16 are ball bearing… Darkkstar, you are so close to getting the ban for misinformation…

Heh…GT35xxR is actually the turbocharger I am considering using…but 2 of 'em.

Idealy I would like a GT3582R packaged like a GT3571… I havent looked around a whole lot…but we’ll see.

PS- GT is just “garrett”… the R designate the BB versions.

Well before you use misinformation for a reason to ban me (aside from unrelated drama), you might want to remember that there’s GT2871s, GT3071s, 78Rs, and many variations of those 4. There’s more then 4 ball bearing garretts.

Maybe I am wrong oin the technical side, but I still think half price T3/T4s are better bang for your buck with all the variation of sizes they come in especially.

Either way, apologies viper for the misinformation :slight_smile:

dont worry… i knew you were wrong… ha sorry

I was thinking about upgrading my turbo for the summer trading my 50 trim for a GT35R or something comparable. My only problem with the GT35R, was the fact that boost hits like a switch. I never felt a BB on a FWD first hand, so correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the instant torque that you get from a qiuck spool-up would be very tough to control in a fwd setup. Especially on the street tires that I plan on running most of the summer.

ask mike what it was like to drive the car i posted the dyno from. i didnt even want to be a passanger in it.
lol

The spool for full boost RPM’s is lower for ball bearing turbos but the real money lies in the transient response. You are on and off the throttle you get significantly better recovery from shifts, etc with a BB turbo.

So, spinning at 65+? :lol: Especially on a car that makes 100+ more whp than me, I could only imagine.

The spool on my G50 is gradual, not slow, but gradual…making wheelspin a little more manageable. More so than my evo3 16g. If I were AWD or running drag radials all summer, BB would be my choice.

Real men do it on street tires with AWD… :wink:

haha my integra’s dyno is in here…Just so you guys know, mine is a 57 trim, not a 50. Doubt that makes much of a difference, but just givin u a heads up.

That was low…but I see it like this…

Real men don’t need the AWD crutch. :wink:

I actually didn’t mean it as a dig, I was saying us with AWD are real men only with street tires. FWD is a different, you get the mad respect with street tires or slicks…

There is no comparison in flow or efficiency whatsoever. The 50 Trim barely outflows an evo 3 16g despite the extra lag. The GT35R can make well over 500 whp.

The 50 trim will not meet your needs. I wouldn’t even consider it.