well by this statement are you saying that the hill already went through this downward spiral and all the unwanted types have already moved in, forcing many of the good residents out? if thats the case, then they are in no position to demand anything, because they havent earned the right to. and they shouldnt be surprised that no buisnesses want to aid in the development to an area that the ppl do nothing to help themselves. sorry man, i have no sympathy for ppl like that.