looks nice
nice bump dude.
love his tag.
lol
Nice plate, but it’s not a Model S FYI.
Thx capt’n obvious, I gathered that from looking at page 1 of the thread lol
There was no other thread that made sense, so I put it up in this one. Meh.
Use the search function y0!
I just moved your post and following posts to the Roadster thread and not the Model S thread.
This is interesting if you care enough to read it: the understatement
If the battery is ever totally discharged, the owner is left with what Tesla describes as a “brick”: a completely immobile vehicle that cannot be started or even pushed down the street. The only known remedy is for the owner to pay Tesla approximately $40,000 to replace the entire battery. Unlike practically every other modern car problem, neither Tesla’s warranty nor typical car insurance policies provide any protection from this major financial loss.
Despite this “brick” scenario having occurred several times already, Tesla has publicly downplayed the severity of battery depletion risk to both existing owners and future buyers. Privately though, Tesla has gone to great lengths to prevent this potentially brand-destroying incident from happening more often, including possibly engaging in GPS tracking of a vehicle without the owner’s knowledge.
Hahahaha… one more reason to toss Tesla’s 100% electric vehicles into the joke/rich toy category.
AREN’T YOU SO EXCITED TO PUT DOWN PROGRESS??!?!?!
Look at this hunk of shit. We DEFINITELY should have given up on this PIPEDREAM:
I agree it’s a major design flaw, but you’re so hellbent on negativity when it comes to EV/hybrid tech…
I’m against companies that way over hype and then under deliver because it hurts the chances for legit companies to sell the technology.
Tesla is going to do to electric cars what GM did to diesel in the 80’s with it’s diesel conversion V8’s. The general public still thinks diesels are that bad.
I wonder what THEIR side of the story is… It does seem like a shitty business move…
They’re definitely aware of it…
After the first 500 Roadsters, Tesla added a remote monitoring system to the vehicles, connecting through AT&T’s GSM-based cellular network. Tesla uses this system to monitor various vehicle metrics including the battery charge levels, as long as the vehicle has the GSM connection activated[4] and is within range of AT&T’s network. According to the Tesla service manager, Tesla has used this information on multiple occasions to proactively telephone customers to warn them when their Roadster’s battery was dangerously low.
In at least one case, Tesla went even further. The Tesla service manager admitted that, unable to contact an owner by phone, Tesla remotely activated a dying vehicle’s GPS to determine its location and then dispatched Tesla staff to go there. It is not clear if Tesla had obtained this owner’s consent to allow this tracking[5], or if the owner is even aware that his vehicle had been tracked. Further, the service manager acknowledged that this use of tracking was not something they generally tell customers about.
Going to these lengths could be seen as customer service, but it would also seem to fit with an internal awareness at Tesla of the gravity of the “bricking” problem, and the potentially disastrous public relations and sales fallout that could result from it becoming more broadly known.
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Vice President of Worldwide Service J. Joost de Vries all became directly involved in at least one “brick” situation, with de Vries stating in writing that since Tesla’s documentation and warranty “identify in clear language to keep the Roadster on external power when parked” the decision to decline any warranty or financial relief was “correct and justified”.
:oj:
I meant more in the sense of what Josh posted. I wonder if the people who buy the cars are thoroughly informed about this. (a la Nissan GTR)
Yeah it doesn’t sound like they are.
Another thing that’s interesting is that the Nissan Leaf doesn’t have this issue according to it’s manual. So I wonder how much different the design is.
Well, Nissan was smart enough to put a small 12 volt battery in the Leaf to power all the vehicle systems. So I’m guessing there is pretty much zero parasitic drain on the Leaf’s mega expensive propulsion battery while the car is “off”.
Wait, so it says the battery has to be replaced? Am I reading that correctly, a dead battery can not be recharged? WTF?
Lithium batteries cannot be 100% discharged. Once they are 100% discharged they cannot be recharged. When your phone says “0% battery remaining” and it shuts off it actually has quite a bit of voltage still available, even though turning it back on just results in it immediately turning back off. Amazing that $50 phones have the technology to cut all battery drain to save the battery, but $80k cars don’t.
^^^Because when your Tesla does die on the side of the road in the middle of nowheresville, you’re gonna need that phone to call for a tow truck. Makes sense to me :gotme: