The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

He’s said he’ll 100% kill US debt (gone in 8 years):

The deficit matters more and is a harder subject as it’s very GDP related and even if Trump did amazing things it wouldn’t change until after he was gone. So technically for my point I should be using both.

As far as the debt goes one thing I wil say is; I am loading up on physical assets for when the house of cards collapses. I see “middle class” people pissing away their money and I just SMH.

gold or bitcoin?

Cool. So posts in this thread from a month ago reference how the debt was going down. You can see from the government link I posted the progress made. It’s going back up now though.

If Obama can increase the debt by 80+% in 8 years, it’s certainly possible that Trump can lower it over his term. But no one thinks he can eliminate it all, and I’m certain no one will vote for or against him over it anyway.

^^Very little gold, no bitcoin.

Land, buildings, various types of equipment, ammo, etc. Don’t ask for specifics. :snky:

It seems like people like me with kids would get hit.

Here’s a question, in various business classes and just pure common sense says to be smart with money etc… but it seems like by traditional standards, high GDP growth and an extremely healthy economy would primarily rely on people being very stupid with their money? I mean every time you hear about tax cuts you also hear about how people have more spending money in their pocket to stimulate the economy… but if they are smart with their money and save , don’t buy crap they don’t need etc. would that not nullify the formula? is that ever really factored in?

I understand there are certain things that don’t fall in that category but usually small amounts of cash are spent on quick gratification type of services and not things like a new roof, new siding, new driveway etc.

Soooo… about that PR mayor who’s shitting on Trump. If you watch any TV news she’s all over the place. But if you’re following other sources you’ll find a totally different story. One for example:

WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en
00:00:00.520 –> 00:00:02.200 B: what is your name?
00:00:02.380 –> 00:00:05.680 C: I cannot give my name because I work for Puerto Rico’s police department.
00:00:05.860 –> 00:00:18.760 I need to pass this information out because the stuff that is being brought from the U.S. it is not being distributed, they are not allowing the Puerto Rican people to receive the donations
00:00:20.040 –> 00:00:26.760 B: What part of Puerto Rico are you calling us from exactly? C: I am right now in Guaynabo. B2: WOW!
00:00:27.580 –> 00:00:32.440 B3: But what affirmation do you have? What have you seen?
00:00:32.980 –> 00:00:49.960 C: The mayor, Carmen Yulin, is not allowing anyone to distribute… We need… What us Puerto Ricans need is that the U.S. armed forces to come in and distribute the aid.
00:00:50.280 –> 00:01:03.400 And that they stop the Governor, Rosello and the mayor Yulin from continue on doing what they are doing… It’s an abuse, it looks like communism, in our own island (sobbing)…
00:01:03.560 –> 00:01:05.920 (Sobbing continues, inaudible due to cries)
00:01:06.460 –> 00:01:21.060 People are helping us, but they are not accepting it, they are not accepting anymore help because supposedly “they have to wait for the license, that there are no buses…”
00:01:21.600 –> 00:01:26.620 … Let me tell you something, Boricuas (Another name for Puerto Ricans) are dying of hunger (crying continues)
00:01:28.780 –> 00:01:38.660 This is a bureaucracy, everything has to be a protocol, the lines are outstretched… We can only give one box of water per person (sobbing continues)…
00:01:39.380 –> 00:01:46.500 The medics here, people are dying, the hospitals are in crisis,
00:01:46.660 –> 00:01:56.780 I am embarrassed, As Boricua to work for Puerto Rico’s police and see that we cannot do anything.
00:01:57.860 –> 00:02:13.280 There are dozens and thousands and thousands of food and when people ask we cannot give anything away because Carmen Yulin says that we cannot take anything out because everything is a soap opera, everything is a show there have to be cameras here and there…
00:02:13.340 –> 00:02:17.760 Because you know, they are just looking for votes for the upcoming years.
00:02:18.100 –> 00:02:24.280 And the governor won’t move unless there is a camera behind him, Carmen Yulin won’t move unless there is a camera behind her.
00:02:24.600 –> 00:02:35.520 This is how we are living in Puerto Rico, in the meantime artists are giving money and the people of Florida are sending stuff
00:02:35.580 –> 00:02:44.960 and I don’t know how many more people are helping because we have very limited communication, very limited and we have no idea what is going on outside
00:02:45.240 –> 00:02:55.160 and the people that are sending stuff they have to come in, they have to come to help Puerto Rico and distribute what is being wasted,
00:02:55.480 –> 00:02:59.320 because what else are we going to do? You tell me, what are we going to do?
00:02:59.680 –> 00:03:13.320 B2: Of course, the desperation B1: We are with our hearts broken listening to you describing this situation which is heartbreaking when we know that so many people are helping… This is a police officer speaking
00:03:13.620 –> 00:03:27.080 C: I’ve been for 1 hour and a half, just trying to download an application Because the phones that they give to us I cannot use them as a police officer due to security measures
00:03:27.080 –> 00:03:31.380 But I need to speak for the people Because the people are suffering
00:03:31.380 –> 00:03:36.200 Because I, as a cop, along with other police partners we are seeing it
00:03:36.920 –> 00:03:46.420 A lot of people have been posting videos (sobbing, inaudible)… and no one is paying attention
00:03:48.000 –> 00:03:52.320 B3: We are truly sorry for this situation, we didn’t know that
00:03:52.320 –> 00:03:57.040 C: If Cuba, Venezuela want to help and we are grateful for that
00:03:57.460 –> 00:04:05.940 and that the government denies their help, the government denies Cuba’s help… That they reject Venezuela’s help… Look, for God’s sake!
00:04:06.980 –> 00:04:10.900 Tell me, how is that possible?! We need help!
00:04:12.760 –> 00:04:19.620 B3: We are going to send this message out so that it gets to where it needs to gets to
00:04:19.920 –> 00:04:30.740 C: We want the U.S. to come in, that the strongest forces come in And take the governor out, he is not doing anything he is just going around and around
00:04:31.000 –> 00:04:36.860 and everyone is like “oh how nice, the governor, he is going into the mud, he is going in the water” And where is it?
00:04:37.460 –> 00:04:40.580 …Pardon the expression WHERE IS THE FOOD?
00:04:40.620 –> 00:04:45.800 Look grab the food, just grab the sausage can and the water and take it to the families!
00:04:45.800 –> 00:04:47.380 Stop the show!
00:04:47.380 –> 00:04:50.140 The governor is just doing a show, is all a show
00:04:50.140 –> 00:04:54.660 There are many mayors, that are suffering because they cannot do anything for their people
00:04:54.740 –> 00:04:59.980 B2: So what are they doing with the food? Is it being kept in storage because they are not allowing to give it out?
00:04:59.980 –> 00:05:05.780 C: They are not doing anything, and they keep telling the harbors(ports) that they cannot bring stuff anymore
00:05:06.340 –> 00:05:11.120 If the U.S. government doesn’t get involved they will finish us
00:05:12.400 –> 00:05:20.380 We are going to end up worse… Worse than Cuba, Africa, or worse than Haiti
00:05:20.860 –> 00:05:25.140 We are living an era that you don’t want to see, people are desperate
00:05:25.140 –> 00:05:29.420 The gasoline, people are already killing each other
00:05:29.420 –> 00:05:31.480 Not to rob you
00:05:31.480 –> 00:05:37.440 They are doing it so they can be the firsts to get food and take it to their families
00:05:37.520 –> 00:05:42.040 Do you know what it is when a woman approaches me and tells me “I don’t have anymore…
00:05:42.040 –> 00:05:46.940 I don’t know what else to give to my kids because I don’t have anymore. Water and crackers!”
00:05:50.320 –> 00:05:55.980 B: Sweetie, thank you for calling us and using this medium to denounce this situation
00:05:57.940 –> 00:06:04.300 And good thing that it was you who explained this so that people don’t think that we are making up stuff
00:06:05.840 –> 00:06:10.520 because this has nothing to do with politics. It is a very serious situation
00:06:10.520 –> 00:06:13.480 C: Very serious (sobbing continues)

a Somali refugee just committed a high profile act of terrorism in Edmonton.

I was 5 blocks from where this incident took place on wednesday through friday of last week. it happened saturday.

will be curious to see what the impact of this will be.

#diversityisourstrength

#notallrefugees

#pray4edmonton

That’s about it.

i mean more on the sentiment of Canadians toward the developing immigration issue.

a bunch of biker gangs have been patrolling the border since the CBC put out the coverage the other day about the people crossing the border.

its been a couple hours since the conference where the edmonton police identified the suspect and Reuters has been publishing it but CBC is not yet. they have updated their main page a couple times

Re: San Juan mayor, the best rebuttal I’ve seen is the picture of her with her “we’re dying here” tshirt that said, “The situation has gotten so bad we’ve barely had time to print t-shirts to politicize the situation”.

https://i.redd.it/hqbjolxzb1pz.jpg

Yep, that one, but this is the no meme thread. :wink:

What else is going on lately. This is where I get my fake and real news.

Is that real? I haven’t heard much about the wall lately. But apparently Trump is doing something with health care?

Subsidies Gone

Wall under pre-construction

Iran deal being re-evaluated

North Korea typical

Trump told France’s President’s Wife she was in great shape and feminazies are losing their minds, this was posted in July but put up on Yahoo’s homepage for whatever reason.

And that about gets you up to speed I’d say, someone add in whatever

You forgot that the media is losing their minds because he said FEMA won’t stay in PR forever.

I’m sorry, but when you’re driving around in a barely running POS that the wheels are basically falling off and it gets totaled in a crash insurance doesn’t buy you a brand new caddy. PR barely had power before the hurricane hit due to their gross mismanagement and corruption. Sorry, but just because you got hit by a hurricane doesn’t mean FEMA is now going to totally rebuild your island. FEMA will put it back to the barely functioning state it was before.

it’s such a conundrum… keep printing money for people who refuse to get their shit together or let millions of people suffer who were not involved in the mismanagement of those funds in the first place.

with regard to Iran; can someone give me the coles notes on why this is amazing? because i assume that it is the right decision if Trump did it.

on the Paris Accord it seemed like the wrong decision until you read up on it… then it made sense. i want to be given this information from you guys instead of actually looking for it.

The Iran thing is funny and the US and Israel literally hacked Iran to slow down their nuclear program and people are now upset over this because Trump said they’re not following the deal Obama put in place.